Wolfie's Life

Ask not what your party can do for you, but what you can do for your party

   Sun, February 17, 2008 - 9:07 PM
What a crazy night last night.

I rolled into the venue about 10:15. The line was around the block. What can I say? it's always a good party with the Do Lab.

The do lab had lost their venue last minute about a week ago. They did a good job of finding a new place. Sadly, it didnt have the same capacity as the previous place. It was permitted, so the fire marshall was strict on capacity. And, really, whether there is a fire marshall or not, none of us wants to throw an event where we overload the venue.

The bassbins in the main room started blowing the power right around the time a certain friend of mine went on the decks. Im not naming names, but lets just say "bass" is part of his name.

OH- Hipgenesis is throwing a thursday night monthly called REVERB at the king king on feb 28th. Come down and check it out, its going to be a blast!

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So, the do lab party.

One thing we as party goers must understand, and cut promoters slack on is how difficult it is to pull off an event of such a large scale.

There is so much love that goes into creating these events for you. Believe me, we do the absolute best we can. We want everyone to be able to get into the party. We also have to watch our budgets, and make sure if the party gets cancelled, we’re not going to loose the car and the house because of it.

If something goes wrong, thats totally part of the package at underground happenings. Things go wrong at every single party I have been to for the last 10 years. Sometimes its a large effect, sometimes a small one. Either way, its part of the experience. As promoters we plan the best we can, we charge the least amount for tickets and drinks we can, and we use volunteers instead of paying people to set up the events. All the while passing our hard work off to your wallet.

Know then, when you complain, that you’re complaining about the group of people that year after year beg borrow and improvise to take care of you. We are the only promoters in town that don’t want you to feel ripped off. We’re the promoters when we see you, we’re actually glad to talk to you. Unlike mainstream promoters that just see you as a dollar sign walking through the door.

Take a moment, and seriously think how you would feel if tomorrow, Blue, The Do Lab, Hipgenesis, Pocket and the Ninjaskillz all stopped throwing parties.

Consider these factors:

-underground venues with nice security are hard to find.
-underground venues get shut down without notice- which happened to the do lab this last week, which resulted in a smaller venue than originally planned.
-the do lab got the right permits so the party wouldn’t get busted. However, that comes with a fire marshall, enforcing the capacity limits.
-that means, the fire marshall stood at the door and only let one person in as one would leave- which created a huge wait to get in the event.
-venues cost many thousands of dollars. the larger the venue, the more expensive it is.
-even if you know 3000 people are coming, you may only have enough cash on hand to rent the 1200 person venue.
-if for some reason the party cannot happen, promoters must be prepared to eat all the cost of the event.
-these events cost 15 to 20 grand to throw, at a minimum. For a 3000 person event, budgets can easily soar to 30 or 40 grand. Thats a lot of cash to think about loosing.
-The more mainstream venues that are suited to handling that kind of crowd, people hate, and refuse to attend.

This is a list of things the do lab should be acknowledged for:
-finding a venue in one week, after loosing the first venue.
-negotiating lower drink prices than the venue wanted to charge. Yes. those expensive drinks were originally MORE expensive.
-Hiring a computerized ticketing system, that did work much faster than previous parties.
- getting permits so that it was a legal party, not in danger of being shut down.
-obeying the firemarshall and not putting you at danger by overloading a venue with people.
-staying within the community with vendors where ever possible.
-doing their best to pay musicians and performers their rates. this meant charging more money for tickets.
-offering a good discount on presale tickets, and NOT capping them at a small number like many places. Instead, they LOST money by selling 600 presales. ( do the math. 300 presales at 25, 900 door sales at 40 vs 600 presales at 25, and 600 door sales at 40)
-Spending months creating deco, planning, and getting permits.
-spending so much time setting up and tearing down.

So at the end of the day, cut promoters slack when things don’t go as planned.

So we’ll start training the large venues to have better security. We’ll carefully pick the main stream venues that are friendly, and let us do our decorations and rent out the whole place for the night.

It’ll mean less hassle for you. The price may be a buck or three more for drinks.

We’ll still hunt for good underground venues. When we find them, know that sometimes, the power may cut out.

We know the standard complaints. We hear them all the time. We do things about them all the time. Many of the solutions result in higher ticket prices, which the community then either refuses to pay and turn out to events suffer, or they pay and gripe loudly about.

We know that sometimes these things suck:
-the ticket price
-the long wait to get in
-the fact the party got busted
-why did we have to take a shuttle
-why were security such jerks
-why did the power cut out
-why drinks were so expensive

Believe me. We as promoters care, ask, and push to get these things handled. And sometimes, it comes down to "okay, drinks and tickets will be expensive, but thats the best we can do. Here's the evening we can offer."

If its going to be a sold out night- buy presales,or if doing cash- show up to the venue before doors open, but please don’t complain when you didn’t plan properly.

I send out multiple “buy presales now” emails. I am always straight with people in my emails about when you should show up early, or plan for a shuttle.

You are fortunate to have these handful of promoters who actually care about you as a human being, and choose to work so hard to create a space for your culture to exist. remember that these are people, fellow community members, just like you.

Remember that none of them are millionaires, with plenty of cash to “do the party right”. We squeak by on a shoe string budget, that comes out of our own pockets, not from corporate sponsors. We rarely can pay the people who work and toil for months making videos, decorations, and spend 48 hours around the event night working non stop to create the space.

Meet us half way in throwing these events. Help set up and tear down. Pay full price for tickets instead of always asking to be on a list. You’re special to us. You don’t need to be on the list for us to prove it. If the parties are worth it, pay for it.

We’re fine to hear feedback. In a polite way, email us personally to make suggestions. Come help us create the space. Help decorate once in a while. Don’t start a complaint section on tribe. Acknowledge the good parts of the events as well as the negative if you must comment in public.



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Sun, February 17, 2008 - 9:20 PM
Is that eyeliner?

Oh, and next time, play something I can dance to, will ya?
Sun, February 17, 2008 - 9:38 PM
Wow.
I can tell by your post that someone has complained about the party last night although I haven't seen said post.....
I don't want to dis their point of view--I had my experience and they had theirs. At the same time I must say that none of the complaints I infer from your post, matched my experience last night.

I had a FABULOUS time.
As someone who is still pretty new to this scene (about a year & a half) I am blown away and thrilled to be able to come to events like these. I really, really mean that. As soon as I walked in I was saying "This is so much better than Disneyland"--with their millions-of-dollars budget and gads of special effects. No, this was home. And very exciting just to be there.

If the playa has taught me one thing it's to be able to roll with things. Something unexpected happens? Fine! Find the good in it. The brief break in the music allowed us all to talk and connect even better for a few minutes. Wait in line? Ah well, maybe take a minute to chat with those standing around you. Security are jerks? None were jerks to me. Maybe they have experienced partygoers being jerks to them and they are a little on edge. Why not let it roll off?

Remember that for every person that seems to have a bad attitude, there are soooo many of us who are very deeply grateful for those who organize these fantastic events at the heart of our community. I really can't tell you how privileged and grateful I feel to be here

Much love to all,
vs
Sun, February 17, 2008 - 9:59 PM
hah
1- yes thats eye shadow. I got the idea from david starfire.

2- I mis spoke, i dont mean to put words in peoples mouths by going "you feel" or "you say" i should have typed
"some people feel, some people say"
Sun, February 17, 2008 - 10:38 PM
The Do Lab ROCKS
Thanks to all at the DoLab for all their hard work and a great party. There will always be wrinkles in the flow or flies in the ointment, but that can't always be helped. The good folks at the DoLab are amazing and I love them!
Sun, February 17, 2008 - 11:31 PM
thanx wolfie for saying a thing or two....most have no idea the blood, sweat, and tears that go into producing events with substance. Everyone else's party is not only somebody else's work, but risk as well. Props to the Dolab crew for pulling off the event despite the circumstances.









Mon, February 18, 2008 - 6:25 AM
Great Party............. Thank You.............:)
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 8:38 AM
"the long wait to get in."

Ha ha ha ha.

I'm sure I wouldn't be complaining if I actually got in.

People who arrived before 10:30, if they followed the rules and didn't try to hop the line, never got in.

Let me ask this question:

Has there EVER been a party in this community where somebody who showed up at 10:30 had to wait 3 hours to get in, assuming they got in at all?

I've been going to events in this community for two and a half years now, which is not as long as some people, sure, but the answer is pretty clearly no. And it's not "no" by a little. It's "no" by an order of magnitude or two. At the last Lucent Delerium I had to wait half an hour to get in. But hey, at least I got in that time.

So maybe we ought to start this discussion with the fact that, when it came to getting people into the event, The Do Lab fucked up, big time. They fucked up worse than anybody has fucked up handling the line in two and a half years. Maybe they did a lot of other stuff well ... but, gee, I couldn't appreciate that since I never got in. I had several friends performing, and despite getting their an hour an a half before their performance I never saw it.

So you know, before everybody starts talking about how The DoLab should be above criticism, maybe they could ... I don't know. Apologize?

And this isn't just about not getting their early enough. The Do Lab made no attempt to control the line. That, combined which a very slow admission rate, meant that the line was, in practical terms, moving backwards for much of the evening.

(I should have bought a ticket in advance. My mistake, certainly. On the other hand ... since I could afford the $10, and there has never, in 2.5 years, been this sort of problem before, I don't put much truck in the notion that I should have anticipated it).

I'd love to acknowledge the "good parts of the evening." I suspect they were great.

Too bad I didn't get to experience them.
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 10:31 AM
Thanks for posting this, Wolfie.
Things of course do happen; I'm really glad everything worked out with the sound so bassnectar could get back on, but things happen - the DoLab can't control that stuff, and they sure busted ass to fix it as quickly as possible.
It's a shame about the line, but again, things happen. I think it's great they found a new location in so little time. Hey, it could have been a lot worse - not finding a location and having to cancel/postponethe event. I image there would have been a lot more bitching had that happened. They had to have the fire marshall for safety - I think we can all be grateful that they (and the law) were looking out for our wellbeing. And the DoLab folks can't control how quickly or slowly the fire marshall is letting people in.

My $0.02 - thank you to the DoLab, Paynie, and all the artists (and all the attendees) for creating such a great evening.
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 10:37 AM
guess we were too busy having a good time to notice the whiners. -oops... no wait, that's ALWAYS the case...
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 10:37 AM
*sigh*

Thanks for letting us know how it went down for you Scooter. I, for one, appreciate your honesty rather than shushing anyone that has criticism. The plain fact is that if we can't learn from what the majority of people want from parties, the parties won't ever get any better.
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 12:06 PM
sold out shows.
I like a lively discussion too. I know the ball got dropped in several ways by the do lab.

My comment is: join my mailing list. not for shameless self promotion, but because I actually care, and I sent out several emails, mentioning it was going to be a sell out show, and that presales were the only way to make sure you could get in the party.

tinyurl.com/38pfkq <--- for the inside scoop.

I knew from talking to the do lab promoters, and judging by how the presales were doing that it would be a tough night to get in. I do my best to get the inside info, and communicate it so people can plan accordingly.

mostly why i wrote this blog is to the people on my mailing list that totally ignored my warnings, then were complaining about it on sunday.

Mon, February 18, 2008 - 12:07 PM
I was working the door. When that line stopped, it was because the Fire Marshall stopped it. Period.
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 12:39 PM
Love to the Do Lab (even though my temper flared with Jesse and he didn't deserve it at that moment in time), but I think most of the complaints I have heard was that the line was only one part of the problem. Everyone that has expressed their concerns to me was actually at the party. And yes, there were several elements of ball-dropping, not just the line outside, which the guys can't necessarily control because of permitting. I warned people to get there early but I didn't warn them about all the other stuff (Power outages, music stoppages, drinks, drink lines, bathroom availability....etc etc etc.) Mailing lists don't help that kinda stuff. But join Wolfie's list anyway.
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 1:03 PM
I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY
I was not there, and have nothing to say.

OK...maybe this...if I were going to an underground party and didn't have tickets and was told to get there early to be sure to get in, "early" would usually mean before 11. So if Scooter got there at 10:30 and never got in then he did what any reasonable person would have done. And, not to belabor the point, but Wolfie put out the post of explanation and Scooter responded to it. I would not call that whinning.

Other than that...I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.

OK...maybe this. That eye liner makes Wolfie look dreamy and cute like that 20 Meat guy <sigh>.

Other than that...I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.

OK...maybe this. I am TOTALLY having pizza with Porter this week, who also looks dreamy and cute in her military garb, but is much more butch than Wolfie.

Other than that...I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 1:30 PM
To avoid confusion, the issue I believe Scooter was pointing out wasn't that the line was completely stalled the entire time he was in it, but rather that his position in it never changed sufficiently to grant him access because there was no control on bad citizens cutting in with friends.

The issue of capacity and a fire marshal slowing access was one that the Do Lab could not have solved without canceling the event. Complaining about issues like this, that are unavoidable or only solved with perfect hindsight is human, but ultimately unproductive.

The issue of how the line was managed, however, could have been solved by placing just 1 or 2 people outside to maintain order and pass on word of how long people could expect to wait. I think it's reasonable for people to raise a voice when a problem seems predictable and easily avoidable and costs them their entire Saturday night.

We are incredibly lucky to do our socializing in a community where we can actually expect our feedback to influence the people responsible for events. Berating anyone for saying anything positive OR negative about the efforts or mistakes of any event is counter-productive to the evolution of better stuff in the future.
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 1:32 PM
I also don't particularly appreciate being called a whiner. I'm not angry, particularly, and I was only responding in the forum that Wolife created specifically about the problems at this event. I do think that organizers - like Wolfie (who I know wasn't directly involved in managing this event) - need to hear about what goes wrong as well as what goes right in order to help make their own events go well. It's relatively easy for me not to be angry, however - it's not so easy for people who came down from the Bay Area, and who made that decision after presales were over (this description, by the way, includes at least three people I spoke to in line) to feel that way.

It's worth mentioning that i already received a phone call from an organizer in our community simply asking to hear my experience, so that he could make sure similar things didn't happen at his events. There are absolutely people in our community trying to do this right, who care a lot about making this sort of event happen smoothly.

Wolife, you absolutely did warn us that it might sell out. I want to be clear that I don't blame you for the problems at this event. Ultimately, not getting a ticket in advance is my fault. Because of the unprecedented nature of the problems getting into this event, the solution some of us used - getting to the party well before what's usually considered "peak time" - proved insufficient.

MdJG -

We, in the line, weren't informed that the Fire Marshall had stopped people from going in until after 1 AM. If it happened before then, then there was a severe communication breakdown - people in the line should have been informed that the party was at capacity immediately, so that we could make an intelligent decision about whether or not to wait in line in hopes of getting in. (I would even go further than that, and say that in a well-managed event, once it was clear that capacity was going to be reached, people in the line should have been informed that the event would be filled long before they got to the front of the line.)

If the fire marshall didn't shut down admission until then, that only casts light on the fact that the line had no integrity. If it was moving constantly at the front, and yet we halfway down the block would often not move for 20 minutes, then a better job needs to be done to prevent large groups of people from cutting in line. The truth is that I probably could have gotten in myself by cutting - I know enough people in the community that I could have probably jumped much of the line, and I probably even knew some of the people working the door. I elected not to do this. Again, I'm not angry, but it's no fun to be punished for being ethical.
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 3:18 PM
What can I do for the party?
Nothing I can do about the elecricity going out or drink prices but people I can control.

"it never changed sufficiently to grant him access because there was no control on bad citizens cutting in with friends. "

That's the kind of thing I would blame on my "community" and not the promoters. People don't cut in line in front of me. That being said: Rght here, right now I want all the promoters I know to remember that I will gladly volunteer to keep people from cutting in line if that's what the party going public need.
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 3:35 PM
good times bad times
I got the short end of the stick too like Scooter, except that after waiting I was hell bent not to give up! I would be redeemed and have fun dammit! Ready to rock in my glittery furry best! Good cheer and mojo would save the day! .. NOT. I got in there just in time for the bar to close literally in my face in line, and for the music to die soon after. I went there ready to absolutely rock. I left wanting to crawl under a rock. That was my experience and it really happened, even if you were partying your furry ass off completely oblivious to the cloud of suckiness outside. I'm glad some people had fun. I've been a supporter of the Do Lab parties for a long time. For the record, I'd be glad to help out. But it should be enough that I show up to these things in crazy costumes and good cheer and pay to get in every single time for years and years and hype the parties to cool people I meet. If the organizers disagree with that, that is their opinion too, and I can find other places to party. I don't need to be on the cool list, I just don't want to get dissed. Peace out!
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 3:51 PM
MdJG...

"it never changed sufficiently to grant him access because there was no control on bad citizens cutting in with friends. "

That's the kind of thing I would blame on my "community" and not the promoters.

This is a nice way of looking at it, as it shows faith in the ethical behavior of your fellows. It doesn't exactly play out very well in a high stress, high cost/reward situation where there are no measurable downsides to attempting to cheat the system. As a promoter you learn VERY VERY quickly that if you leave a situation like this unchecked (people cheating guestlists, overusing passwords, cutting lines, peeing in staircases, stealing drinks, not tipping bartenders, etc. etc. etc. etc.) , it will be abused relentlessly.

I hold the opinion that it if such a problem can be easily and cheaply headed off it ABSOLUTELY is the responsibility of the promoter to do so, since they are the only ones with the authority to do so without conflict and also have the resources (via their profit from selling you a good time!) to hire staff, reward volunteers, or otherwise find a solution.

That's me anyway.
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 5:06 PM
whining.
scooter wasn't whining. He's absolutely right- I did this post to get a place to really discuss it. I'm glad he spoke up, and I'm not denying those people that tried their best and ended up not getting to have fun.

for the record, it was PORTER that was whining. about my music not being danceable.

And, to be compared to the statuesque 20 meat by Chris Penny... wow. I'm honored.



Mon, February 18, 2008 - 5:38 PM
My vantage and reaction is similar to Scooter's, not surprising since we were in line together. Like Scoots, I blame myself for not getting my shit together when pre-sales were still available. Some things can't be helped. I fly in from without a ticket, I run the risk. Won't discourage me from trying again, though I'll plan a bit better. All that was entirely my fault. Not angry at all, just disappointed.

So on to what could *constructively* help out next time:

What those of us back in line would have liked was some sort of information on what was happening at the front. The most annoying part from the 'didn't get in' side was simply not knowing what was going on (while suspecting and ultimately finding out) the worst. Had the fire marshall shut things down early? This we didn't know. Was it moving steadily and many people were joining it ahead of us? I know the latter to be at least partially true as someone directly behind us managed to sneak up to the head of the line and get in after the fire marshall had shut things down. But it wasn't clear at the time if this was the larger problem, or if there'd just been a run on $5 bills to make change.

I also know that as someone in the middle of the line, there's nothing we can do *as individuals* to control what is going on ahead of us. And as said by others, line jumping is a larger community problem, but it's not something that most of us can really control and we look to the organizers to help us out. Someone from security or a volunteer acting with sufficient authority walking the line with updates, even simply telling those milling in the streets poised to cut that the end of the line is where it is, might help a lot. A little authority-flexing can go a long way in managing things.

At the very least, I've learned my lesson about my own planning. A $25 gamble with the downside an unused ticket is priceless when the flip side is waiting outside all night.
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 5:57 PM
ok, next time there's a really big oversold party, I'll throw a house party on the same night.
just kidding.

of course, if you showed up at 3:00am with a case full of CDs and a military uniform, we'd probably let you in.
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 7:01 PM
FYI - lately it's been quite difficult for promoters to find larger venues that can handle this kind of occupancy that are affordable. unfortunately this is "Hollywood" and we have film shoots with big budgets offering lots of cash for the larger spaces which makes the building owners not too keen on renting for parties and art shows. perhaps next time the dolab should look into doing a street closure to accommodate the crowds.
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 8:27 PM
"...of course, if you showed up at 3:00am with a case full of CDs and a military uniform, we'd probably let you in."

Does that mean I could ACTUALLY play those CDs? I only got as far as 3 minutes and 30 seconds (THREE MINUTES AND THIRTY SECONDS) through my first track of the entire set. I tried that three times and finally gave up and went home to my bottle of Nyquil and my bed.

And, I've actually already said to one person or another, "I wonder if Chris and Anne Marie would rent me their house for my next birthday." I'm tired of my birthdays sucking. They used to be awesome.
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 9:21 PM
Okay wha?
What do you mean there is nothing you can do as individuals to keep people from cutting in line? I do it all the time. You walk up and say, "Please don't do that." Why didn't you know what was going on? If I was there with friends, I'd say, "Keep my place," and walk to the front of the line and find out. If I was alone I'd ask the person behind me to keep my place. I've done it. I did it at the Vangaurd when I had presale VIP tickets, was an hour early and the first person, literally the first person in line and had to wait two hours. When they wouldn't open the ticket window, I went to the back of the trailer and knocked on the door until someone came out and answered my questions. I then went back and explained to the rest of the line. The drinks that night cost eleven dollars and both the rest of the guests and the security guards were major dicks as were a few of the waitresses. Now, that was all with no last minute change of venue, but the sound never went out!
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 9:34 PM
OK, clarification: there is _a little bit_ that one can do to keep people right in front of them from cutting in line. In a line stretching the better part of the block though, there's very little one can do to influence the bulk of the line terribly far upstream. We can depend on a collective spirit of everyone in the line to enforce things for the benefit of those behind them, but that seldom works. It doesn't take too many 'cheaters' to back things up considerably.
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 9:35 PM
thank you
my comment is thank you. i had a blast. but then again i'm always "early" and plan ahead even when i try my best to be a slacker. i totally appreciate all the hard work that Wolfie and the Do Lab and everyone else put in. having awesome couches to crash on, having fucking fantastic music to dance to. i've been putting in crazy hours at work so having this opportunity to dance was most welcome. i too experienced a little of the cutting, and i was in the presale, ticket in hand line, so i just shrug it off as part of some people's personalities. but getting everything together is a major accomplishment and i just wanted to say thank you
Tue, February 19, 2008 - 10:27 AM
woah.. I had a great time!
Man.. sorry to hear that people are giving you grief about that party. I came all the way from SF and was thrilled to be in such an amazing space!! We dont have those kinds of options up here.. LA is fortunate!!

Your set kicked ass!! Loren's set kicked ass!! (once it got started).

I didnt mind the power shortage specially when half naked dancers started performing to a solo sax with the crowd clapping.

The presale ticket line went fast once we figured out the place to stand.

The performances were top notch.

Anndd you have pics up already? Sweet

So yah, you got it good.

THANK YOU
hvd
Tue, February 19, 2008 - 11:41 AM
It sounds like the majority of people had a good or mostly positive time, and good for you for getting in early and having fun when the power went out.

However, think about this: I also had friends in from SD, OC and all over LA including media, who didn't get in even though they bought tickets or were on my artist guest list.

"I didnt mind the power shortage specially when half naked dancers started performing to a solo sax with the crowd clapping."

That's great that you didn't mind, but a lot of my friends and other people who like to hear me play came to see me play specifically, and paid for babysitters, gas from SD, etc in order to do so. The power outage may have allowed people to chitty chat and what not, but it basically meant that Helios Jive had to completely rearrange the show that they had spent weeks planning and building, plus it meant that their crowd was shorted 45 minutes of their performance.

Additionally, it meant that my set didn't happen at all, which is the least tragic when comparing the two because Helios Jive doesn't just get to show up with CD's and play music as easily or often as I do.

It's great that most people rolled with the punches, but after whining and convincing friends of mine, media representatives and my normal crowd to please pay 40 bucks for tickets, wait in line for hours, risk not getting in and then get in to hear that it's after 3 a.m. and the power won't stay on so I'm unable to play -- that's shitty. And I feel awful about it on their behalf.

I remember when Wolfie totally got fucked playing a big mega Hollywood club because of beginning power reasons then lineup problems. He got the shaft bigtime and was PIIIISSSSED off. How is this not the same thing? Both venues are billed as professional venues - not undergrounds. He promoted his ass off to get ticket sales and his friends out to see a big night for him, then got to play a whopping 20 minutes. But hey, 20 is better than 2 and a half (MINUTES.)

So, don't be so quick to assume that it's bitchy or selfish just because some people didn't have such a flowery experience - there was a lot of work put in to promote this event and get our friends and long-time supporters to this event, only to have to turn around and apologize when it was all over. As a performer, you never want to be in that position. As a result, I've received a large amount of feedback that these people are no longer going to bother attending Do Lab events - which is fine because at this point I do believe there is room for alternatives. It sucks, however, that it was a mega shitty experience that left a bad taste in their mouth about it.

But, as a friend to the Do Lab, you forgive and try to be as diplomatic as possible, even though this is the 4th time something like this has happened to you out of 6 parties you've been booked for. Again, not their fault, but I'm still disappointed. I still love them, but I'm disappointed.

Oh, and join my mailing list.
Tue, February 19, 2008 - 12:03 PM
"However, think about this: I also had friends in from SD, OC and all over LA including media, who didn't get in even though they bought tickets or were on my artist guest list. "

Where were they? We didn't have anyone left in any line except cash while I was still up there.
Tue, February 19, 2008 - 1:30 PM
They left. :(

Or you can call me and I can give you all the details of what happened.
Tue, February 19, 2008 - 4:01 PM
I'm not going to say "should" or "should have" coz that's the most pointless frickin' word there is.
I didn't get in after 2+ hours of waiting. I was one of hundreds of people out in the cold. I'm over it.

If you got in, I'm happy you had a good time. If you weren't stuck outside waiting, please don't call whiner on the folks who were and then spoke up about it.

Wolfie, your post helps to take the sting out of the disappointment of a few hundred folks, or at least for a few of us I know.
It would have been nice to know far enough in advance that I was going to be able to trade shifts at work so I could buy tickets and attend. A always try to follow your hints and buy presales. Unfortunately by the time I confirmed my shift change, a week before the event, the presales were sold out. That's nobody's problem but mine. For future reference, is it better to make other plans for myself if the presales sell out, even though cash entry is still an option?
Tue, February 19, 2008 - 6:48 PM
Purple:
You're going to Fuente right? Can I share some tequila with you while we trade one liner's about Wolfie's eye liner?
I'll be camping near the Orangekids and playing the pool party all day. I'll have my tequila waiting for you.
I liked your video from last year. That was you, right?
:)
Wed, February 20, 2008 - 4:58 PM
Oh i think I'm gonna cry.....
I feel moved from the profound love & care behind your words, Wolfie. Thank you so so much for taking the time to share this with us. I know it's making a difference for me and the others. I agree with everything you've said. Unplanned changes and inconveniences are simply part of throwing a party; I know from personal experience. In fact, you can count on that not everything will turn out as planned. It's like getting married. No matter how much $$ you have, something will go 'wrong'.

You're so Great Wolfie. I celebrate the radiance of your loving heart.
Wed, February 20, 2008 - 5:15 PM
Now that the peanut gallery has had it's say...
Here's the word from the DoLab.
laburners.tribe.net/thread/2...343726da7