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Re: A Lesson in Contraries.
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>>>>>This is the inescapable result of a well-understood moral/legal principle that was not explicitly stated, but remains implicit in the argument for anyone with a moral sense. It goes like this, "Anyone who has the ability to prevent an evil or...
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Lucifer Exposed
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Lucifer means lightbringer, from the Latin lux "light" and ferre "to bear or bring." The word Lucifer is found in only one place in the Bible -- Isaiah 14:12 -- but only in the King James and related versions: "How art thou fallen from heaven, O L...
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discussion post on Sun, May 11, 2008 - 8:20 AM
Re: A Lesson in Contraries.
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>>>>>>>>>>Lucifer was kicked out of heaven but is still on staff. His job is to goad humans into right action and not torment for eternity, which is another Greek concept.
Lucifer does not appear in Job. To make such a claim requires accepting... read more discussion post on Sun, May 11, 2008 - 8:15 AM
Re: McCain's "Spirtiual Advisor" Worse Than Obama's
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Adastra,
I would think Yhwh/Jesus cares about what humans say about him to the extent that what humans say and do in that regard (such as "God's commands say...") hinder in some way other's relationship with the divine by weakening in some way ... read more discussion post on Sun, May 11, 2008 - 7:18 AM
Re: Magic trick costs teacher job
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>>>>>At least, I'm not likely to be fired by Blockbuster for the "crime" of wizardry. Being an international corporation, they have more immediate concerns than wizards on staff. LOL.
Unless your wizard powers entail the ability to pirate ... read more discussion post on Fri, May 9, 2008 - 6:03 AM
Re: McCain's "Spirtiual Advisor" Worse Than Obama's
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>>>>>.I mean that quite seriously; the arrogance of believing that God cares what humans say about Him
Jesus/Yhwh should care about what humans say about him. It is called a reputation. If that reputation is slandered by humans, I would expec... read more discussion post on Fri, May 9, 2008 - 5:59 AM
Re: Why I am a Christian
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I do not really think it was Josh either. I was only playing "Figure Out the Alt".
discussion post on Thu, May 8, 2008 - 6:10 AM
Re: Why I am a Christian
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"Ken" will no doubt now believe that he is being persecuted because of his religious beliefs. That is assuming the pos(t)er actually believes that things posted as Ken. As of this posting "Ken" is not a member of any other tribe nor has any post... read more discussion post on Wed, May 7, 2008 - 3:50 PM
Re: A Lesson in Contraries.
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>>>>>>You might could try and rephrase this as a claim about God being *ineffective* but you cannot say that the pope's bad acts mean God is active nowhere in the world at all. It doesn't follow, no matter how you type it up.
Josh, You ... read more discussion post on Tue, May 6, 2008 - 10:53 AM
Re: Why I am a Christian
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>>>>or, the people writing the bible many years after jesus' death may have just put in a bit of standard wisdom and ascribed it to jesus.
Ken, You totally missed Matthew's points. It does not take divinity to speak "divine wisdom". The ... read more discussion post on Tue, May 6, 2008 - 7:50 AM
Re: Why I am a Christian
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Matthew, et. al.,
Here is a great paper that explains using rational choice theory how and why people practice religion including switching religions or denominations. Note I did not say "why people believe". http://http//naasr.com/Iannaccone... read more discussion post on Tue, May 6, 2008 - 7:29 AM
Re: A Lesson in Contraries.
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>>>And even worse, they practice it clumsily. The practice of ritual magick is rightly practiced only by those who have the spirit of God and the authority of Jesus Christ. All others are amateurs and largely incompetent. <<<
So what is Chris... read more discussion post on Mon, May 5, 2008 - 9:16 PM
Re: Evangelicals say faith is now too political
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Bill,
You should read the manuscript I posted. You will really like pages 15 - 25. (I am on page 26.) discussion post on Mon, May 5, 2008 - 1:36 PM
Re: How to Reduce Crime -- Pray
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In addition to prayer the mayor has instructed the Police chief to start performing random ID and Insurance checkpoints around the city. One of my co-workers at my second job was arrested in one for a 3 year-old unpaid speeding ticket. He spent tw...
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discussion post on Mon, May 5, 2008 - 1:14 PM
Re: Evangelicals say faith is now too political
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Here is a wonderful quote that relates:
"Problems of risk arise whenever the attributes of a commodity cannot be fully determined prior to its purchase. The problems prove especially serious when the commodity is expensive, hard to evaluate e... read more discussion post on Mon, May 5, 2008 - 1:08 PM
Re: Evangelicals say faith is now too political
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The Moon backed Bush administration has dragged the U.S so far down into a new Depression that not even Moon's seemingly endless pockets can keep the church based businesses going. Even the stupidest of fundies can see the war is dragg... read more discussion post on Mon, May 5, 2008 - 1:02 PM
Magic trick costs teacher job
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Magic trick costs teacher job
www.tampabays10.com/news/loc...icle.aspx Substitute teacher Jim Piculas does a 30-second magic trick where a toothpick disappears then reappears. But after performing it in front... read more discussion post on Mon, May 5, 2008 - 11:04 AM
Re: A Lesson in Contraries.
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I realized something after posting the formalized version. Josh has subtly switched from talking about validity to talking about soundness. Again this is intellectually dishonest on his part as I never claimed my argument was SOUND. A sound argum...
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discussion post on Fri, May 2, 2008 - 3:55 PM
Re: A Lesson in Contraries.
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Primarily to demonstrate that I am more godlike--that is gracious--than Josh I will restate my original argument and then formalize it.
Here is exactly what I said: "I think Pope Benedict XVI is proof positive that if there is a Abrahamic de... read more discussion post on Fri, May 2, 2008 - 2:16 PM
Re: A Lesson in Contraries.
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Self-correction:
"Furthermore my conclusion was "conclusive proof". I said "it seems to me"." should read "Furthermore my conclusion was NOT "conclusive proof". I said "it seems to me"." discussion post on Fri, May 2, 2008 - 8:29 AM
Re: A Lesson in Contraries.
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Josh:
You fail, yet again, to even be able to properly recognize the conclusion of my argument. Since you cannot do that step you are then incapable of testing its validity. My conclusion was about Yhwh interacting in the world. I said the cur... read more discussion post on Fri, May 2, 2008 - 7:16 AM
Re: A Lesson in Contraries.
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Noting that YOU committed a straw man is not an ad hominem on my part.
Arguments, points of view, sets of propositions, belief systems (Theism vs Naturalism) can stand in varying relations on the Square of Opposition. Those ways of relating a... read more discussion post on Wed, April 30, 2008 - 2:32 PM
Re: If God exists, why do the Bad Popes exist?
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So consential sex with multiple women and bribery is worse that pedophilic rape (not to imply Joey the Rat actually performed these acts) and protecting those who commit pedophilc rape? Damn your values are twisted!! But we expect that from papa...
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discussion post on Tue, April 29, 2008 - 8:25 AM
Re: A Lesson in Contraries.
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Now consider the “contrary” statements of Krampus
A: God is all-good. Joseph Ratzinger is pope. Yet another straw man from you as that is an oversimplification of what I cliamed. I clarified it for you twice. discussion post on Tue, April 29, 2008 - 8:19 AM
Re: Oh Frabjous Day
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I'm a dancin' fool with you Bill.
discussion post on Mon, April 28, 2008 - 4:16 PM
Re: Why I Am A Christian
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Since you refuse to answer the question "Why are you a Catholic/Xtian?" maybe you will answer this question:
Given you are a Catholic/Xtian, why are you a member of an atheist tribe? Keep in mind I do not expect an actual answer from you. ... read more discussion post on Mon, April 28, 2008 - 11:22 AM
Re: If God exists, why do the Bad Popes exist?
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Josh:
Ad hominems are the sign that you lack an argument/evidence. discussion post on Mon, April 28, 2008 - 8:12 AM
Re: Professor Values
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Interesting.
First, do music teachers promote sexual immorality? Creationist professors are not denied tenure. The Presidents Council on Bioethics is a counterexample. Also, a tenured music professor at my university is a creation/ID believe... read more discussion post on Mon, April 28, 2008 - 8:00 AM
How to Reduce Crime -- Pray
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Sackcloth And Asses: Birmingham Mayor Schedules Prayer Of Repentance
blog.au.org/2008/04/24/s...f-repentance/ Birmingham Mayor Larry Langford says city needs to humble itself, proclaims... read more discussion post on Mon, April 28, 2008 - 7:51 AM
Re: If God exists, why do the Bad Popes exist?
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Josh,
Note that I was very clear one two points: 1. I explicitly stated that I was not talking about whether or not "god" exists. 2. I also explicitly stated it was a conjunctive thesis. Obviously if one part of the conjunct fails the whole f... read more discussion post on Mon, April 28, 2008 - 7:14 AM
Re: expelled: no intelligence allowed indeed
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PZ Myers and Dawkins blogs both have really good synopses of the movie. Both appear in the movies but they agreed to under false pretenses. And yes the movie does link evolution to the Nazis. Also, a couple of lawsuits have been filed against th...
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discussion post on Sat, April 26, 2008 - 11:16 AM
Re: Would Somebody Please Toss a Net Over the Meshugahs?
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I think Pope Benedict XVI is proof positive that if there is a Abrahamic deity then that deity is no longer active (in a positive manner) in our world. (Notice I did not say "does not exist".) If there be such a deity with properties assigned by ...
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discussion post on Fri, April 25, 2008 - 10:35 AM
Re: Pope affirms natural law in UN address
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Josh,
I am not going to stoop to your level of slinging ad hominems. Suffice it to say, you have demonstrated your Christianity very well. discussion post on Fri, April 25, 2008 - 7:50 AM
Re: Congresswoman's 10-Point Plan to Battle Radical Islam
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It may have been a "colloquialism" or maybe it was a use consistent with the interpretation of the constitution which in this case is woefully ambiguous.
"...shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" could mean "Congress and the ... read more discussion post on Wed, April 23, 2008 - 1:33 PM
Re: Congresswoman's 10-Point Plan to Battle Radical Islam
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't think the Founders contemplated a psychotic religion that seeks to violate the First Amendment by imposing religion on the law as a matter of religions principal.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<,
I think this i... read more discussion post on Wed, April 23, 2008 - 11:18 AM
Re: The Big Question?
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More proof in favor of evolution:
scienceblogs.com/pharyngul...lizard.php Speciation and the methodology of evolutionary science explained: www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/ discussion post on Wed, April 23, 2008 - 8:07 AM
Re: Why does science intimidate the religious community?
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Myers has this on his blog:
scienceblogs.com/pharyngul..._the_r.php It is about a "science" teacher who thinks it is appropriate and effective to teach about electricity to high school students by burning ... read more discussion post on Wed, April 23, 2008 - 6:48 AM
Re: Why does science intimidate the religious community?
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Famous blogger and biology professor PZ Myers receives threats of violence on a daily basis from those "agape loving Xtians":
scienceblogs.com/pharyngul...7.php#more I wonder if his reputation keeps them out of h... read more discussion post on Wed, April 23, 2008 - 6:45 AM
Re: Crusaders 'left genetic legacy'
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Here is the list of diseases I have found where people are searching for a link between "race", genes, and the disease:
Cancer (obviously) ADHD Obesity Addiction Heart diseases Kidney disease "Preterm Birth" Bipolar "illness" (yes the pape... read more discussion post on Wed, April 23, 2008 - 6:25 AM
Re: Crusaders 'left genetic legacy'
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Relating this all back to the thread topic...
I find it difficult to believe in any way other than the obvious, "No shit if they reproduced", that this study provides any meaningful information. When they can't even define "race" adequately or ... read more discussion post on Tue, April 22, 2008 - 10:28 PM
Re: Crusaders 'left genetic legacy'
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It should be clear that I am skeptical of the current fetish with race, genetics, and biological outcomes. Most of the reasoning is circular. There are at least 5 different methodologies for defining race genetically. Each of them claims to be sup...
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discussion post on Tue, April 22, 2008 - 10:11 PM
Re: Pope affirms natural law in UN address
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And furthermore Josh,
Since you know that none of us here respect the Papal Pedophile Protector then why do you continually disrespect us all by doing nothing but posting pro-papal bullshit? Why are you even here at all? discussion post on Tue, April 22, 2008 - 8:59 AM
Re: So why are you a Christian?
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So Josh,
Why won't you participate here? You have been politely asked 3 times. Or are you solely concerned with being a free PR Weasel for the Papal Asshat? discussion post on Tue, April 22, 2008 - 8:54 AM
Re: Pope affirms natural law in UN address
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>>>>If this were so, there would be rationale for the UN's charter on human rights, for there can be no rights across cultural / metaphysical lines. Not even you actually believe this. <<<<<
Actually, the UN charter is completely secular. ... read more discussion post on Tue, April 22, 2008 - 8:50 AM
Re: Disbelief and enlightenment
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Thanks Mickey.
The Fundie mind-set is the contradictory: enlightenment is an end-state of clear and certain knowledge that can be achieved. discussion post on Mon, April 21, 2008 - 12:05 PM
Re: Disbelief and enlightenment
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The path to enlightenment is:
1. A process of "continuing education"--a continual pursuit that never ends. 2. A process that may NOT result in "clear and certain/absolute" knowledge (to borrow a phrase from Descartes). discussion post on Mon, April 21, 2008 - 11:30 AM
Re: Pope affirms natural law in UN address
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Natural Law (NLT) is complete crap. Here is a litany of reasons why:
1. It is grounded in a false metaphysics: A: It takes "natural laws" to be prescriptive" when they are descriptive. B: Neurology, biology, and physics reveals there is no "t... read more discussion post on Mon, April 21, 2008 - 8:11 AM
Jericho March
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November 1
Washington, DC White House Calling all citizens Gather at The White House November 1, 2008 Bring your musical instruments and voices to march 7 times around the White House blowing a cacophony of sound, of protest, of ... read more discussion post on Sat, April 19, 2008 - 11:20 PM
Jericho March
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November 1
Washington, DC White House Calling all citizens Gather at The White House November 1, 2008 Bring your weapons--your musical instruments--to march 7 times around the White House blowing a cacophony of sound, of protest,... read more discussion post on Sat, April 19, 2008 - 11:07 PM
Jericho March
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November 1
Washington, DC White House Calling all citizens Gather at The White House November 1, 2008 Bring your weapons--your musical instruments--to march 7 times around the White House blowing a cacophony of sound, of protest, of v... read more discussion post on Sat, April 19, 2008 - 11:00 PM
The Black Box of Me
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Sat, April 19, 2008 - 12:10 PM
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Washington, DC White House Calling all citizens Gather at The White House November 1, 2008 Bring your musical instruments to march 7 times around the White House blowing a cacophony of sound, of protest, of voice. Talking Points for the Media: * Despite the fact of an election in 3 days, we are watching OUR government... * And participating. "Voting irregularities" will not be tolerated. * There will be change!!! * People should not fear their government. ... read more
Memes, according to memetics, transmit themselves via a copying method, usually imitation. In examining the survival of a meme we must consider certain factors: copy-fidelity (degree of mutation in copying), the context in which it occurs (its environment), the meme's fecundity (or environmental fitness), competitiveness (rival memes found in the environment and the copying rates).
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If Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens, et. al. really want to succeed in eliminating Xtianity's (and other religion... read more
The G.W. Bush administration advocates and exercises the Unitary Executive Theory. This is why Gonzales maintained he owed no obligation to appear and testify before Congress and why Rice maintains she need not honor the Congressional subpoena. However, the unitary executive theory may be the Achilles heel of the administration. According to this theory, the President possesses all executive power of subordinates within the Executive Branch which the Constitution does not specify as requir...
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Mon, May 7, 2007 - 9:20 AM
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Thu, December 21, 2006 - 6:33 AM
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Below is an editorial I am working on in hopes of publication. Please make comments for additions or revisions. Also, I need suggestions on where to publish it. Truthout.org, Motherjones.org, MoveOn.org do not accept outside editorials. Republicans are The Federalist Disease The neocon faction of the Republican party explicitly admires The Federalist Papers. Membership in the Federalist Society is a networking imperative for any up-and-coming conservative minded ... read more 
Or Maybe Bipartisanshipium?
Mon, October 23, 2006 - 10:10 AM
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Science. Researchers from Russia and the United States create a new element in an audacious lab experiment, but it exists for only one millisecond before it begins to decay. They're thinking of calling it stabilityiniraqium. www.slate.com/id/2151868/
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