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last updated 09/01/10
I'm into "Extreme Sounding". I've gradually stretched my urethra up to 3/4". I plan to continue stretching and see how large I can get it. I machine my own sounds, so size is no limit.
One thing I've been considering lately is "Bladder Stuffing" my bladder with surgical stainless steel balls. Any ideas?
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Wed, September 1, 2010 - 11:07 PM
by PP Probe
As a young adult (and already very much into advanced urethral and bladder work) I met a gentleman professionally. Middle aged at that time, he was a physician in a large Midwestern city. His career had involved Emergency Room work and supervision as well as forensics, which involved autopsies. His career had taken him to both New York and Los Angeles...but had started out in a relatively rural environment. As I got to know him better it became clear we had a good deal in common sexually...and it is from long conversations with him that I learned many, many men engage in extreme and bizarre sexual practices involving their urethras and bladders. I believe my doctor friend was medically competent... and his opinions were unvarnished...ie. he said what he believed, rather than what a physician might say publicly about 'odd' practices. He told me during autopsies finding one or more foreign objects (which had likely been there for years and years) in a man's bladder was not THAT unusual. Many men apparently have lived to very ripe old ages (and died of other, non-related causes) with various and sundry objects in their bladders which they had inserted or lost inside themselves years before.
He had found coins (the dates sometimes 30 or 40 years back), 2 to 4 inch long 'rods' of metal or hard rubber, marbles, steel balls, small smooth stones... all manner of things... which had caused no damage or injury whatsoever.
He told me of a male patient who presented with an unrelated complaint in which he detected a large, firm mass in the area of his bladder. The patient, reluctantly, told him not to concern himself with it... that he had, for years, been inserting pieces of surgical tubing into his bladder... pushing it all the way in with another piece. Considering his sexual interests my doctor friend questioned the man more. Turns out he had been doing this for some 10 years, stretching his bladder more and more, inserting more and more pieces of tubing. Sometimes the patient said a piece of the tubing would block the exit to his bladder, but then he would just either catheterize himself or use his hands to move the mass around so he could pee.
My physician friend summed all of these cases up simply by saying, "As long as foreign objects in the bladder do not cause physical trauma (ie. they are sharp) and are not a medium for bacterial growth, such objects can remain in the human bladder which is otherwise completely functional for an infinite amount of time".
He also indicated that women also were sometimes encountered with foreign objects which had been in their urinary bladders for considerable time which were assuredly placed there deliberately and for sexual pleasure. It should be said here that my acquaintance relayed his observations without a hint of judgment. He always maintained that even the dullest and least aware of humans likely has a very private and unshared facet to their sexuality. And so, my fascination with objects inserted into and retained in the bladder began ...
As our friendship endured he (reluctant at first) facilitated my meeting with a few of the individuals he had encountered in his practice... though they were never aware of his part or role in the introduction. In addition I became intimate with several men who practiced advanced and extreme urethral and bladder activities sexually.
Through knowing them I have met others, several of whom I know and see to this day. Additionally, I have through the 'usual' channels met others who regularly (and often very privately) engage in unusual sex acts which involve their urinary tracts.
I know a fellow who intentionally pushed (forced) one after another stainless 'balls" into his bladder, with the sole intent of making it virtually impossible to urinate normally (I should mention these objects were the largest possible he could force into himself... impossible to be "passed" during urination).
He knew in advance that because gravity would cause those orbs to lay on the bladder floor and block the urinary exit...he could only urinate (and then only with a rather full bladder) by laying on his stomach, his back, or standing and bent over at the waist as though he were touching their toes, or by catheterizing himself.
One playmate in the Midwest has since well before I met him continued to force such 'ball bearings' into his bladder to stretch it more and more. Like the average male, when he senses he has a full bladder he voids 350 to 500ml of urine. But his bladder now holds some 15 'ball bearings' and is the size of a volleyball.
Like many men with occupations which make them retain urine for retracted periods and develop enlarged bladders over time, others make a conscious effort to stretch and increase the capacity of their bladders without inserting objects into them. Some accomplish this by simply waiting longer and longer to urinate... to the point they feel they might burst or wet themselves. Others employ an in-place catheter, which they plug or valve... and allow only small amounts of urine to exit when the urge becomes unbearable. Doing this with a simple (Foley) catheter over time makes it extremely easy to uncontrollably 'piss around' the catheter tube itself...even though the cuff is fully inflated. Some solve this problem by using 'double bardex' anal catheters (with two inflatable cuffs)... that is if they have distended their urethras sufficiently to accommodate their over 30fr size. Once the catheter is in place in the bladder they inflate the first (farthest) 'cuff' within the bladder to keep the catheter captive. Then they inflate the second 'cuff'... which is at that point located just outside the prostate gland in the urethra itself. Thus placed and inflated it is impossible for them to 'piss around' the catheter. Commonly, the practice is to place such a catheter, crimp or plug the outside end, drink a great deal of fluids, and go to bed for the night. By morning the bladder is extremely full and very distended... at which point only a small amount of urine is released, and the bladder is kept overfull, which stretches it more and more.
The bladder is muscle tissue, and extremely elastic. While a normally full bladder which calls for virtually immediate urination usually contains less than 500ml (2-cups) of urine, many men have stretched their bladders to regularly retain over 2000ml (2-liters...8-cups....2-quarts). This provides not only an extremely sensual swelling of the lower belly, but enhances the pleasure of orgasm due to the pressure on and deformation of the prostate gland. More than a few men find it extremely sexually exciting to view the huge bulge created by a distended bladder in their bellies or in the bellies of a sexual partner. Though there are pictures on the internet of almost anything imaginable sexually, I have yet to see an image of the belly of a man who has a distended/overfull bladder.
Though I have not mentioned it I should. The sensations one experiences with a bladder distended with liquid are quite different from those produced by a bladder inflated with air. I will comment on that later. So.... All of this is leading up to a way I have devised to safely and non-permanently place (force) solid objects into the bladder to distend and stimulate it for sexual pleasure... objects which dissolve over time either completely, or to the point they can be passed (with extreme pleasure) during urination (or the voiding of inserted air).
More than a few men find it extremely sexually exciting to view the huge bulge created by a distended bladder in their bellies or in the bellies of a sexual partner. Though there are pictures on the internet of almost anything imaginable sexually, I have yet to see an image of the belly of a man who has a distended/overfull bladder. Though I have not mentioned it I should. The sensations one experiences with a bladder distended with liquid are quite different from those produced by a bladder inflated with air. I will comment on that later. So.... All of this is leading up to a way I have devised to safely and non-permanently place (force) solid objects into the bladder to distend and stimulate it for sexual pleasure...objects which dissolve over time either completely, or to the point they can be passed (with extreme pleasure) during urination (or the voiding of inserted air).
Hopefully tomorrow (Monday) I'll have the time to post that info. If there is anyone out there besides our leader the marvelously depraved Mi Wong who has interest in this area I would enjoy hearing from you. ••• PP Probe
Been thinking about machining some different kinds of toy. I machined a "toy" a while back to "wear" during the day. The idea was to wear it to stretch out the bladder neck and muscle. Its actually comfortable to wear and nothing shows except a small piece of monofilament line coming out the urethra. It feels great sitting inside there. It feels like you have a large sound inserted in the bladder, but there is nothing showing! When you squeeze the bladder muscles, you can feel it move up and down inside.
Wed, September 1, 2010 - 8:09 PM
The only problem is you have to remove it to urinate as it doesn't have any drain holes in it. I guess maybe I should machine one that has drain holes in it and a hose connection for draining.
I'll shoot some pixs of this "toy" and post them.
Any ideas for other toys????
Sat, August 28, 2010 - 11:18 PM
Bladder stuffing consists of filling the bladder with highly polished, surgical stainless steel balls. The balls may be introduced into the urethra and pushed back into the bladder using the fingers or by using a long rectal scope, or by a custom made* “Urethral Scope”, they can be dropped down the tube and directly into the bladder.
After the balls are introduced, the act of walking or moving around should cause the balls to move within the bladder and create moving sensations deep within the body. They are electrically conductive, so the use of electric stimulation would prove an interesting experience.
The balls can be faintly heard clicking as one moves around.
For more sensations, the bladder may be filled with a small amount of air or urine.
Caution should be used when the bladder is stuffed as the added weight could damage it
An intermediate catheter can be inserted to drain off urine when the urge becomes too great. A Foley catheter could be installed for continuous drainage, but the balloon of the Foley would restrict the movement of the balls within the bladder.
Why do it?
1 Because it’s exciting to explore new feelings and sensation in the body.
2 It feels GOOD. It’s sexually stimulating to have items slide past the prostate and bladder neck.
Bladder Stuffing Procedure
Items for stuffing
Stainless Steel Balls Type 316 are particularly suitable for applications where severe corrosive conditions exist. Available in sizes from 1/8” to 1” in diameter.
1 Sterilize Balls
A. Boil in distilled water in pressure cooker
B. Transfer to a sterilized glass container
C. Soak in alcohol (or suitable sterilizing agent.) until ready to dry.
D. Dry on a sterilized surface or container just before introducing into the bladder.
HANDLE ONLY WITH STERILE GLOVES.
2 Sterilize Urethral Scope
A. Boil in distilled water in pressure cooker
B. Soak in alcohol (or suitable sterilizing agent.) until ready to dry.
C. Dry on a sterilized surface or container just before introducing into the urethra and bladder.
HANDLE ONLY WITH STERILE GLOVES.
3 Sterilize Urethra and Surrounding Area
A. Sterilize the whole length of the urethra with the proper sterilizing solution. Possible using --
B. Sterilize the external meatus of the penis and any area which might come in contact with the urethral scope or hands.
HANDLE ONLY WITH STERILE GLOVES.
4 Lubricate Urethra
Using a sterile syringe, introduce a sterile lubricant into the urethra and work down the entire length of the penis.
5 Insert Balls (using fingers)
Using sterile gloves, insert balls into the urethra and slide them back, through the prostate and into the bladder. With this method not all of the balls will enter the male bladder due to the length of the urethra. The female urethra, being shorter, may allow most if not all the balls to enter the bladder.
5a Insert Balls (using Urethral Scope)
A. In a supine position, insert the urethral scope into the urethra and into the bladder. The scope will be at about a 45 degree angle or less, due to the passage of the scope through “Cobb’s Curve” in the lower urethra.
B. Using sterile gloves, insert balls, one at a time, into the end of the scope and let them roll down the tube, into the bladder. DO NOT let the balls roll down the tube too quickly. This could possibly bruise the lining of the bladder.
C. Once all of the balls to be used have been introduced into the bladder withdraw the urethral scope, leaving the balls in place, in the bladder.
Note: The bladder MUST be empty of urine at this time. Otherwise urine will flow up and out the scope tube. This will probably have to be done fairly quickly, as the body is continuously manufacturing urine.
Retrieving the Balls Naturally:
Either drink lots of fluids to build up a normal back pressure of urine or irrigate the bladder with distilled water or saline. When enough pressure has built up to force the balls out of the bladder and urethra, fasten a net bag over the end of the penis to catch the balls exiting the body. An alternative would be to use a strainer of some type like a cooking colander or a plastic fruit basket.
This method can be safely tested by experimenting with a bead of suitable diameter tethered with a piece of monofilament line. Place the bead in the bladder; build up back pressure; and try to urinate the bead out without having to resort to pulling it out with the safety line.
Note 1: the bead will NOT have the same weight as the surgical stainless steel balls. Therefore the bead may not drop down as low in the bladder sphincter muscle as the steel balls.
Note 2: The bladder sphincter muscle, prostate, and urethra will probably shrink back to their “normal” size after a time and need to be dilated again.
Retrieving the Balls with Urethral Scope:
To retrieve the balls, a suitably long rectal scope or a urethral scope is slid into the urethra, through the neck of the bladder to a position just before entering the bladder its self. This opens up the bladder sphincter muscle just enough for the balls to enter the scope. And drop out. Too far into the bladder and the edge of the scope may form a wall, keeping the balls from rolling into it. Too far away from the edge of the bladder, and the balls may not be able to slide into the scope. By maneuvering the lower body around and manipulating the bladder area, the balls should drop out of their own accord.
1. You may not be able to urinate with the balls in the bladder, as the weight of the ball/s causes them to sink to the floor of the bladder. If this is the case, introduce an intermediate catheter to drain the bladder. Or after the last ball is inserted place a Foley catheter in the bladder.
2. Ball/s may come out during normal urination if the bladder neck and prostate are sufficiently dilated.
3. Wearing the balls in the bladder for long periods of time may change the shape of the bladder.
4. Glass marbles could be used, but there is a chance of them chipping or cracking
Stretch urethra to at least ¾” diameter if not 1"
Build “Urethral Scope” and accessories
The Custom Made “Urethral Scope”
It is similar in design to a anoscope or proctoscope, only longer and thinner. It consists of the main tube with a removable handle. Possible a flange with fastening holes around the outer edge would allow it to be worn with suitable straps. This would hold the urethra and bladder open without having to hold the instrument with your hand. This would be easier to use when standing up to retrieve the balls.
The orbiter, which slides inside the tube of the scope creating a rounded end on the tube to allow it to be smoothly passed into the urethra and bladder. Best not be air tight, just a snug fit.
In addition two “Ram Rods” are to be designed and built. One would allow the balls or anything else to be pushed down the tube and into the bladder, if the need arose. This one would have to be “vented” in order not to force air into the bladder along with the balls.
A second “Ram Rod” would have a small thin neoprene “O” ring seal around the orbitor. This would create either a pressure or vacuum in the tube of the scope and thus in the bladder itself. It could be used to inject sterile lubricant or anything else into the bladder. Possibly you could use it to “Vacuum Out” the balls in the bladder by locating a ball and pulling back on the orbitor handle and creating a vacuum. Thus sucking the ball into the tube of the urethral scope.
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