KMO plays the second half of AyasminA’s interview with Dr. Stephan V. Beyer, author of Singing to the Plants: A Guide to Mestizo Shamanism in the Upper Amazon. Steve details the importance of the auditory aspect of the Ayahuasca experience, and then the conversation turns to the paternalism and condescension of First World defenders of indigenous peoples. Later in the episode, KMO plays a clip from the It’s Not Us It’s You podcast about the totalitarian aesthetic of Wal*Mart’s new generic product packaging.

Hear the interview at: c-realmpodcast.podomatic.com/pla...7_00