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Mon, April 17, 2006 - 11:06 AM
I wouldn't make such a bold judgment as to say "All one God" is a lie.
Au contraire, sometimes it is merely a glitch in translation. The sikh concept of "one God" is embodied in the mantra "Ek ong kar" Ek= one (unified) ong= the creation all that exists kar= the verb "to create" . The creator. Meaning that the creator and the creation are one and the same. This is sometimes translated as "there is one God". I find this translation baffling. I guess the translators feel limited to translate culturally into a concept that a judeo-christian trained western English speaking mind can wrap itself around. |
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Mon, April 17, 2006 - 3:47 PM
I love to get into thith kind of discuthon, I wish I could have heard more about your thaught'th when we were back at the thtudioth.
I had a similar thought about this recently, kind of goes back to scripture type stuff... In the beginning was the "seed" and the "seed" was with the "tree" and the "seed" was a "tree" I was thinking about the multiverses, and comparing it to one giant forest that has always been expanding... I read the other day that where the word 'create' got it's origins... And the word is 'to mold ar carve out'... What would you use to mold something such as you and me...? spirit is the only thing I can come up with that has no beginning or end...and just possible when it comes to creating things they are molded from itself... the spirit... which would mean there is not much difference between the two...spirit and matter... it's in the eye of the beholder and which eyes we want to see with... Keep em posted... I have been honored since the first time I meet you and felt like I was in the right place at the right time... toinfinity and beyond |
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Mon, April 17, 2006 - 5:12 PM
my point was, if an entity said to me..."i am the one true god", and the entity wasnt lying...i could not be around to listen to it. the next part of this is why would someone claim to be "the one true god", and then get jealous of the other "gods". the one true god is hole and compleate, to get angry at his people for not believeing in him is to say that he is angry at himself because "he" doesnt believe that he is "the one true god".
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Fri, June 23, 2006 - 11:02 PM
yes, nOne...
The metaphoric mythos of gnosticsm feels to speak to this 'false god' that resonates well:
www.gnosis.org/gnintro.htm The Gnostic library: www.gnosis.org/ And a quote I like: "In his recent popular study, The American Religion, Harold Bloom suggests a second characteristic of Gnosticism that might help us conceptually circumscribe its mysterious heart. Gnosticism, says Bloom, "is a knowing, by and of an uncreated self, or self-within-the self, and [this] knowledge leads to freedom...."9 Primary among all the revelatory perceptions a Gnostic might reach was the profound awakening that came with knowledge that something within him was uncreated. The Gnostics called this "uncreated self" the divine seed, the pearl, the spark of knowing: consciousness, intelligence, light. And this seed of intellect was the self-same substance of God, it was man's authentic reality; it was the glory of humankind and the divine alike. If woman or man truly came to gnosis of this spark, she understood that she was truly free: Not contingent, not a conception of sin, not a flawed crust of flesh, but the stuff of God, and the conduit of God's immanent realization. There was always a paradoxical cognizance of duality in experiencing this "self-within-a-self". How could it not be paradoxical: By all rational perception, man clearly was not God, and yet in essential truth, was Godly. This conundrum was a Gnostic mystery, and its knowing was their greatest treasure. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ And from Sri Ramana Maharshi: The limited and multifarious thoughts having disappeared, there shines in the Heart a kind of wordless illumination of "I-I," which is pure Consciousness. If one remains quiet without abandoning that understanding, then egoity-the individual sense of the form " I am the body"-will be totally destroyed. And ultimately, the final thought, the "I"-thought, will also be extinguished... The great sages and scriptures declare that this alone is Realization." Ramana Maharshi, The Essential Teachings of Ramana Maharshi "Self-inquiry leads to Self-realization by removing the obstacles which make you think that the Self is not already realized. It reveals the truth that neither the ego nor the mind really exists and enables one to realize the pure, undifferentiated Being, which is the Self or the Absolute." Ramana Maharshi, The Essential Teachings of Ramana Maharshi "Realization is nothing to be gained anew. You are the Self. You are already and eternally That.There is never a moment when the Self is not; it is ever-present, here and now. If realization were something to be gained hereafter, there would be an equal chance of its being lost; this cannot be Liberation, which is eternal. Realization consists of getting rid of the false idea that one is not realized." Ramana Maharshi, The Essential Teachings of Ramana Maharshi ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Namaste... |
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Wed, April 4, 2007 - 10:17 PM
I am remembering a certain trip we took where we both learned alot from each other. I have never forgotten it and still live my life exactly the same way as I described it that night. I might stray a little but in the end I realize the truth. Just wanted you to know I still remember.
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