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Nolen

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last updated 11/21/09
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December 1, 2008
Nolen stays calm. While I am a vociferous and, often strident, pacifist, Nolen is an inspiration of tranquility amid the chaos. He's a good egg.
December 2, 2006
Nolen is a dependable and knowledgeable voice of reason. He is a Democratic patriot who engages in political discourse with sincerity and an open mind. I always benefit from reading his posts.
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"They shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more." Isaiah 2:4
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Thomas Jefferson 1801

The essential principles of our Government...should be the creed of our political faith...should we wander from them in moments of error or of alarm, let us hasten to retrace our steps and to regain the road which alone leads to peace, liberty and safety.
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Favorite Quotes:


"No soul, it has been said, forfeits truth wilfully...Nothing needs to be kept in mind more constantly than this; it will help you to greater gentleness in all your dealings with people."

-Meditations by Marcus Aurelius


"America's health care system is second only to Japan ... Canada, Sweden, Great Britain ... well, all of Europe. But you can thank your lucky stars we don't live in Paraguay!"

-Homer Simpson


"If the events of September 11, 2001, have proven anything, it's that the terrorists can attack us, but they can't take away what makes us American - our freedom, our liberty, our civil rights. No, only Attorney General John Ashcroft can do that."

-Jon Stewart


"To a man with an empty stomach food is God."

- Mahatma Gandhi


"When before the beauty of a sunset or of a mountain you pause and excaim, 'Ah', you are participating in divinity."

-Upanishads


"As the deer pants for the water brooks, So pants my soul for You, O God.

-Psalms 42:1 (NKJ)


"Let your heart feel for the afflictions and distress of everyone, and let your hand give in proportion to your purse."

-George Washington
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Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
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My Recent Activity

Trust the settlers to lose the West Bank (in **MIDEAST POLITICS**) Trust the settlers to lose the West Bank
By Bradley Burston

www.haaretz.com/hasen/spag...133342.html

Barack Obama cannot and will not compel Israel to withdraw from the West Bank and free up land for a Palestinian state. Neither wil... read more
discussion post on Tue, December 8, 2009 - 7:14 AM
Trust the settlers to lose the West Bank (in MIDDLE EAST POLITICS) Trust the settlers to lose the West Bank
By Bradley Burston

www.haaretz.com/hasen/spag...133342.html

Barack Obama cannot and will not compel Israel to withdraw from the West Bank and free up land for a Palestinian state. Neither wil... read more
discussion post on Tue, December 8, 2009 - 7:13 AM
The Insurance Industry's Lethal Bottom Line -- and a Solution From Sens. Franken and Rockefeller (in ! * POLITICS * !) Wendell Potter
December 6, 2009
The Insurance Industry's Lethal Bottom Line -- and a Solution From Sens. Franken and Rockefeller

www.huffingtonpost.com/wendel...01.html

There was a time, in the ... read more
discussion post on Mon, December 7, 2009 - 11:30 PM
Re: Tiger Wood jokes! (in ! * POLITICS * !) THAT's funny!
discussion post on Mon, December 7, 2009 - 10:41 PM
Re: Thanks, assholes (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<merge the most difficult issue in the nation, Healthcare, with the second most difficult issue, Abortion.>>

It's a way to kill the bill. There's been a grand compromise on abortion since the late 80's. The federal government won't pay for i... read more
discussion post on Mon, December 7, 2009 - 10:39 PM
Re: 'The Freeze' is just another scene in Israel's masquerade (in MIDDLE EAST POLITICS) Interesting take on Netanyahu's freeze. Essentially he argues that by ordering the freeze to placate Obama rather than actually solve the issue, peace was more possible under Olmert who didn't freeze building. Hopefully, they're all wrong and so... read more
discussion post on Mon, December 7, 2009 - 9:10 AM
Re: 'The Freeze' is just another scene in Israel's masquerade (in **MIDEAST POLITICS**) Interesting take on Netanyahu's freeze. Essentially he argues that by ordering the freeze to placate Obama rather than actually solve the issue, peace was more possible under Olmert who didn't freeze building. Hopefully, they're all wrong and so... read more
discussion post on Mon, December 7, 2009 - 9:08 AM
Re: Why Socialism? by Albert Einstein (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<This is incorrect. The United States is the most polluting country in the world>>

Actually, China has over taken the US for that distinction. The single worst environmental disaster of the 20th century, Chernobyl, did not occur under a capit... read more
discussion post on Mon, December 7, 2009 - 8:01 AM
Re: Why Socialism? by Albert Einstein (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<Otherwise capitalism collapses>>

Once again, you're describing imperialism and calling it capitalism. You've yet to establish this but I'm not going to go around and around with you on this.

<<And the U.S. auto industry did quite well pro... read more
discussion post on Sun, December 6, 2009 - 10:16 AM
Re: Why Socialism? by Albert Einstein (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<No, he said it was the natural evolution of capitalism. Capitalism is capitalism and capitalism does what capitalism does. >>

You're making an assertion not an argument. Lenin argued that capitalism leads to imperialism because it leads to m... read more
discussion post on Sun, December 6, 2009 - 9:39 AM
Re: 2,000,000 killed in Sudan (in MIDDLE EAST POLITICS) <<Dave? You mean my best friend? >>

Definitely wouldn't put Dave in that group.
discussion post on Sun, December 6, 2009 - 9:28 AM
Re: Why Socialism? by Albert Einstein (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<No. Lenin stated that imperialism is the natural evolution of capitalism. >>

Actually, he said it's the natural evolution of aberrant capitalism.

"Free competition is the basic feature of capitalism, and of commodity production generally... read more
discussion post on Sun, December 6, 2009 - 7:11 AM
'The Freeze' is just another scene in Israel's masquerade (in **MIDEAST POLITICS**) 06/12/2009
'The Freeze' is just another scene in Israel's masquerade
By Gideon Levy

www.haaretz.com/hasen/spag...132944.html

Like every production, be it a flop or a hit, the future of this show will also be decided by the ... read more
discussion post on Sun, December 6, 2009 - 6:54 AM
'The Freeze' is just another scene in Israel's masquerade (in MIDDLE EAST POLITICS) 06/12/2009
'The Freeze' is just another scene in Israel's masquerade
By Gideon Levy

www.haaretz.com/hasen/spag...132944.html

Like every production, be it a flop or a hit, the future of this show will also be decided by the ... read more
discussion post on Sun, December 6, 2009 - 6:53 AM
Re: Why Socialism? by Albert Einstein (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<That's like saying that for Marx's interpretation of the exploitation of labor by capitalists to be true, all people would need to te be exploiting all others.>>

Not at all. Lenin, and you, are saying that capitalism's natural end is imperia... read more
discussion post on Sat, December 5, 2009 - 6:02 PM
Re: Swiss vote to ban minarets (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<Mainline denominations tend to be pretty repressive as a rule.>>

The mainline protestant denomination I use to attend (UCC) had a lesbian as an associate pastor. I think yesterday's "fringe" is today's accepted practice.
discussion post on Sat, December 5, 2009 - 5:49 PM
Re: Final nail in the controlled demo coffin? (in ! * POLITICS * !) I can't believe you all are still talking about this.
discussion post on Sat, December 5, 2009 - 5:46 PM
Re: Russia foils U.S. attempt for a Quartet declaration supporting Israel's settlement freeze (in MIDDLE EAST POLITICS) <<by going against UN consensus on Iraq, tried to render the UN meaningless>>

That seems to be the general Zionist/neo-con (is there a difference?) strategy.
discussion post on Sat, December 5, 2009 - 5:42 PM
Re: The War on "Peanuts" (in Political Junkies) <<and said the president's primetime address on Tuesday about the U.S. military's strategy in Afghanistan was a deliberate effort to block the airing of the cartoon "A Charlie Brown Christmas.">>

Pathetic.
discussion post on Sat, December 5, 2009 - 5:36 PM
Re: Big Freeze: Earth Could Plunge into Sudden Ice Age (in ! * Environmental Protection * !) This is a well established theory in climate science. It goes like this; cold, highly saline waters sink in the North Atlantic. This sinking starts a 1000 year deep ocean cycle which ultimately drives warm equatorial waters to the west coast of ... read more
discussion post on Sat, December 5, 2009 - 1:33 PM
Re: Why Socialism? by Albert Einstein (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<They are the people who own all of the big nameless corporations from Exxon to Bell Helicopter and Haliburton.>>

This ignores the history of capitalism in the Islamic world. What you're describing is exploitation of these countries by intern... read more
discussion post on Sat, December 5, 2009 - 1:03 PM
Re: Why Socialism? by Albert Einstein (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<I don't see that as being in the least bit "naive". >>

We're not really in disagreement here but the fact is that the immigrants wanted a Jewish state and the Arabs - rightly as it turned out - feared they were there to take their land. Expe... read more
discussion post on Sat, December 5, 2009 - 12:32 PM
Re: how did islam spread ??? (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<That may well be it, because the Gnostics went extinct much before Muhammad's time. I did not know of Ebionites before, who may have preserved Gnostic teachings.>>

Having read most, if not all, of the extant Christian gnostic texts, I would b... read more
discussion post on Sat, December 5, 2009 - 12:24 PM
Re: Europe's press says Swiss ban sends wrong signal (in ! * POLITICS * !) << lol, what are you even trying to argue here? >>

Muslims are evil, what else?
discussion post on Sat, December 5, 2009 - 11:47 AM
Re: Why Socialism? by Albert Einstein (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<The formation of the Jewish state at the expense of the Palestinians, within a colonial framework, was the reason the two groups didn't get along.>>

I don't disagree with that. I only stated that his idea was naive.

<<the Balfour declarat... read more
discussion post on Sat, December 5, 2009 - 11:43 AM
Re: Why Socialism? by Albert Einstein (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<Return? The capitalist imperialists have firm control of the Arab and traditionally Muslim world.>>

Who are these capitalist imperialists?

<<Imperialism is an inevitable consequence of the predatory nature of capitalism.>>

Nonsense. Th... read more
discussion post on Sat, December 5, 2009 - 11:38 AM
Re: Why Socialism? by Albert Einstein (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state.>>

A lofty ideal but ultimately naive. It was apparent, even in 1945, that the two peoples couldn't get... read more
discussion post on Sat, December 5, 2009 - 10:35 AM
Re: Why Socialism? by Albert Einstein (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<Capitalism is predatory because the unequal wealth of the rich nations comes from the plunder and exploitation of the third world.>>

I think you're confusing colonialism/imperialism with capitalism. Capitalism depends neither upon plunder no... read more
discussion post on Sat, December 5, 2009 - 10:23 AM
Russia foils U.S. attempt for a Quartet declaration supporting Israel's settlement freeze (in MIDDLE EAST POLITICS) "The Russians argued that they did not agree with stating that Israel will be a Jewish State, and that the borders will be altered on the basis of "developments" on the ground, namely Israeli annexation of the large settlement blocks."

I agree ... read more
discussion post on Sat, December 5, 2009 - 7:12 AM
Re: Why Socialism? by Albert Einstein (in ! * POLITICS * !) "nowhere have we really overcome what Thorstein Veblen called "the predatory phase" of human development.... Since the real purpose of socialism is precisely to overcome and advance beyond the predatory phase of human development"

Einstein sta... read more
discussion post on Sat, December 5, 2009 - 6:37 AM
Re: how did islam spread ??? (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<The Christianity that informs the Quran went extinct a long time ago; it has a strong Gnostic flavor.>>

That's an interesting statement! When I read the first part of your statement, I expected you to say Ebionite Christianity. Care to expo... read more
discussion post on Sat, December 5, 2009 - 5:53 AM
Re: Swiss vote to ban minarets (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<But really it just pales in comparison with things such as Pakistan's>>

You're not one of those Jews.
discussion post on Fri, December 4, 2009 - 8:09 PM
Re: Swiss vote to ban minarets (in ! * POLITICS * !) Ha!

"Citing religious discrimination, a diverse coalition of Jewish organizations is objecting to Switzerland's ban of minarets on local mosques.

Swiss voters this week approved by a strong majority a referendum outlawing the construction of... read more
discussion post on Fri, December 4, 2009 - 7:33 AM
And another (in ! * POLITICS * !) when asked how the recent car accident/beat down had affected his playing ability, tiger said, "well, my long game is still pretty good. i just need to focus on getting my putz down."
discussion post on Fri, December 4, 2009 - 7:18 AM
Here's one (in ! * POLITICS * !) How do you know when tiger / cheetah is in trouble ?


1) he drives in the woods

2) he can't avoid the water hazard

3) he needs a new caddy
discussion post on Fri, December 4, 2009 - 7:17 AM
Re: IDF fears settlers may attack Palestinians in response to freeze (in MIDDLE EAST POLITICS) <<"The decision made by the cabinet is the best for Israel under the complicated diplomatic circumstances Israel is in and in view of the multifaceted challenges facing us," the prime minister said. "We made a difficult decision in order to advanc... read more
discussion post on Fri, December 4, 2009 - 6:42 AM
Re: Settlers not my brothers (in MIDDLE EAST POLITICS) "It's hard to be a Jew. Recently it's been even harder, and not because the whole world is against us, but because we are against the whole world. Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion was right. It's important what Jews do - and what we did was cut our... read more
discussion post on Fri, December 4, 2009 - 6:37 AM
Re: EU to recognize East Jerusalem as capital of Palestinian state (in ! * POLITICS * !) Gaza is not Egypt. It can hardly be claimed that he "gave it up" rather the end of Israeli occupation of Palestinian land was not part of the Egypt/Israeli treaty. Signing a separate peace plan, rather than insist upon a comprehensive settlement... read more
discussion post on Fri, December 4, 2009 - 6:24 AM
Re: EU to recognize East Jerusalem as capital of Palestinian state (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<now if the EU also insists that the palestinians

have the same courage as sadat >>

Sadat refused to even enter into negotiations with Begin until the issue of land was settled. He didn't give up an inch of Egyptian land during Camp David.... read more
discussion post on Thu, December 3, 2009 - 10:49 PM
Re: King of Panhandlers (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<Tom Friedman is an opportunistic panhandler. >>

That's an understatement. He was the chief cheerleader for the Iraq war and now he's arguing against Afghanistan.

"We could have hit Saudi Arabia. It was part of that bubble. Could have hit ... read more
discussion post on Thu, December 3, 2009 - 9:01 AM
Roosevelt Understood the Power of a Public Option (in ! * POLITICS * !) Roosevelt Understood the Power of a Public Option
By ADAM COHEN
Published: November 30, 2009

www.nytimes.com/2009/12/01...01Tue4.html

As governor of New York, Franklin D. Roosevelt crusaded for “public power,”... read more
discussion post on Wed, December 2, 2009 - 11:56 AM
Re: EU to recognize East Jerusalem as capital of Palestinian state (in MIDDLE EAST POLITICS) Interesting piece. East Jerusalem is at the heart of the conflict. Netanyahu seems to want to just pretend it is not. The EU is giving him a wake up call here.

<<Israel's Brussels-based ambassador to the EU, Ran Kuriel, sent several messages... read more
discussion post on Tue, December 1, 2009 - 8:20 AM
Re: back to sol (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<tell us what strategic value does Israel have for the US?>>

That's a question I'd like to hear seriously discussed. As far as I can tell, Israel is offers nothing but demands everything. Every President spends an obscene amount of time on t... read more
discussion post on Tue, December 1, 2009 - 12:49 AM
Re: another 1 million estimate of iraq war deaths (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<Another scientific study>>

Whether the study was conduct correctly or not I can not say. However, if we assume the number is in the ballpark, it is incorrect to attribute the vast majority of these deaths to the US military. We did not kill... read more
discussion post on Tue, December 1, 2009 - 12:31 AM
Re: NGO to Clinton: Settlements are legal (in **MIDEAST POLITICS**) <<Actually, Andrew has made this argument before>>

Heh, I did say "argued seriously".

Given that the GA inherited the mandate authority from the League of Nations my inclination is to dismiss it as grasping for any legal justification for la... read more
discussion post on Mon, November 30, 2009 - 10:36 AM
Re: Bin Laden and Pakistani Nuke Scientists... (in ! * POLITICS * !) << carlnet.no-ip.org/facepalm_implied.jpg >>

LOL
discussion post on Mon, November 30, 2009 - 8:39 AM
Re: Before You Boycott Israel (in ! * POLITICS * !) tribes.tribe.net/mideastpo...5bf9618825
discussion post on Mon, November 30, 2009 - 8:33 AM
Re: NEW Middle East Politics tribe (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<Now what about cDub's family? >>

cDub's family and character will become the issue when he criticizes Israel. It's all so predictable.
discussion post on Mon, November 30, 2009 - 8:29 AM
Re: Pawned (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<commenting on the actual CONTENT.>>

The CONTENT is "Goldstone Chickens Out". As such, the character of the person whom he is accused of running away from is directly on point. Whining about "poisoning the well" when you all make Goldstone's... read more
discussion post on Mon, November 30, 2009 - 8:25 AM
Re: U.S. Is Doing No Good in Afghanistan (in ! * POLITICS * !) <<I read the key finding of your report and support for an international force was NOT listed as one of the key findings.>>

You need to look at the report itself:

"Almost 70 percent of those polled say the Afghan National Army and police con... read more
discussion post on Mon, November 30, 2009 - 8:14 AM
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