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My Threads on 2012
Tue, April 29, 2008 - 6:35 AM
Hunab Ku (a dogged pursuit of the origins of that ubiquitous icon of 2012)
2012.tribe.net/thread/fb0...d167201e98e
Daniel Pinchbeck on the Mayan Apocalypse
2012.tribe.net/thread/31f...1a389f1c25a
William S. Burroughs & 2012
2012.tribe.net/thread/6b9...438e4d72eda
1975 & 2012
2012.tribe.net/thread/b29...72e7f780ddc
2012: The Movie
2012.tribe.net/thread/001...5b69161ea5c
2012: Science or Superstition?
2012.tribe.net/thread/a97...da263c2eaea
2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl (a discussion that began before Daniel Pinchbeck's book was in print)
2012.tribe.net/thread/348...928cc2aa858
2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl (continued)
2012.tribe.net/thread/bb2...aa9b861e67d
2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl (extended)
2012.tribe.net/thread/046...4eeda34f0a7
2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl (elongated)
2012.tribe.net/thread/b18...c0ca52428d4
2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl (prolonged)
2012.tribe.net/thread/1d9...df9e0457531
If that's not enough, here's a review of Pinchbeck's book followed by a long discussion with John Major Jenkins:
groups.google.com/group/utm...3a86e38b1a
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Tue, April 29, 2008 - 8:51 AM
Thanks! I don't see an upcoming apocalypse or abrupt spiritual re-birth in 2012 but then I wasn't raised religiously so haven't that "end of the world" concept ingrained in my psyche. I'll check out some of the links.
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Tue, April 29, 2008 - 9:40 AM
I agree. I don't think it's gonna happen.
However, I DEFINITELY plan on having a week long "Let's Immanentize the Eschaton" party at my house in the week leading up to it... |
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Tue, April 29, 2008 - 10:08 AM
thanks for all you do john. its made a difference in my life, especially when i was sorting things out, the rough edges and when i began to doubt my own beliefs, you've given a point of reference and reason to continue on the search of self discovery.
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Wed, April 30, 2008 - 7:26 AM
Thanks!
I must say, the positive comments over the years have been few and far between. Mostly, I get accused of suppressing dreams and imagination, but I don't think a perspective rooted in skepticism does that at all. There are plenty of dreams yet to be realized in science and technology, and plenty of incentive for the most fantastic of dreams in the realms of fiction, film, and art. What bothers me the most is when other people insist that their dreams and imagination (and only their dreams and imagination) are everyone's "reality". I have no problem whatsoever with aliens, ESP, lost continents, and even 2012 in literature, film, graphic novels, video games, or whatever other realm of expressive imagination. I have very little patience, however, with the insistence that something is "true" when it is not true for everyone. That's insulting, exclusive, and ultimately destructive.
Here's a quote I came up with that may come close to being the meaning of life: "Most of what's real has yet to be imagined and most of what's imagined has yet to become real." For me, this will always provide an incentive and excitement about life, if only to see what comes next! We've got a lot yet to do with this existence, with plenty of room for dreaming in the absence of nonsense, absurdities, and stupidity. There's no puzzle to me as to why humans have both creation and end-of-time myths. At a personal level, the circumstances immediately preceding our births and following our deaths will always be a source of wonder, speculation, and fear associated with our personal non-existence. Creation myths and end-of-time myths are in part the natural anxieties of individual mortal humans extended to all existence. I think each of us realizes we need to get our affairs in order today because none of us is promised another tomorrow. |
