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May 20 is the Day
Thu, May 8, 2008 - 10:25 AM
Obama becomes the Democratic Presidential Nominee!
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Thu, May 8, 2008 - 11:32 AM
Oh my! Those 11 days between when he declares victory and when the DNC makes their final resolution about the dispute of whether MIchigan and Florida's SD votes will be counted is going to be historic!
I can't imagine what the battle will entail. Staying tuned.... |
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Thu, May 8, 2008 - 12:53 PM
Great.
The democrats continue to canabalize eachother making themselves look bad and the country wonder "well if they cant even get along with each other, how will they do with forgen affairs?" While the republicans lurk over in the shadows and laugh about how they'll win the election without even lifting a finger. Fuck the dems for proving that they can't get their shit together, and all but enshuring another for years of republican rule. |
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Thu, May 8, 2008 - 1:31 PM
I had a few people just give me some sobering heads-up's about the Clinton campaign doing the Repubs work for them and all the contesting that's going on. Between now and the end of the month is the time for people to speak out and let their voices be heard, in ways that are substantial, in ways that can blow the bullshit politics outta the water. I'll be workin it in my spirit community. Blessed work to the rest of y'all.
btw, I like LIANA's projection of how it's gonna go. =) |
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Fri, May 9, 2008 - 8:55 AM
Rev, I don;t think anybody questions the Dems ability to handle foreign affairs appropriately. We have been in the longest war in American history and we still don;t have a valid reason that we went into Iraq. McCain also proposed to kick Russia out of the G8. So if we are talking about foreign affairs, Obama is the first presidential nominee ever to say he would meet face to face with some of the worlds most controversial leaders. That sounds like good foreign policy to me.
I dpon;t think Hilary is dooing the Republicans work. Imagine being in the shadow of Bill Clinton your whole life ad finally having an opportunity to run for president. Remember when all Rocky wanted to do was go the distance, win or lose. She cares about the American people, she cares about herself, but she just wants to give it her best shot. I don't have a problem with that. Obama will do fine. His charisma will overshadow McCain's temper on national tv and he will win in November. If everyone would just stop whining and complaining and vote fo what they believe in, we'd be fine. And just as a mention, any Clinton supporter who says he/she will vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination doesn;t know a thing about McCain. Go to his own website and read how he is stating that he wants Roe v. Wade overturned, voted against bans on armor piercing bullets, wants bans on internet pornograohy, is AGAINST embryonic stem cell research, and wants to increase troop levels in Iraq. If people stopped listening to the bias opinions pf the media, and just read what these candidates are saying, this world would be fine. But most people don;t know the actual facts and just go ased upon snippets on television. |
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Fri, May 9, 2008 - 8:10 PM
Imo the Clintons are as bad as Bush. They don't care about the American people. Are they really going to try and do what bush did in 2000 and insist that they have won until people give in? That is what it seems like to me. How quickly people forget the past.
My prediction, If the Clintons get the nomination the republicans will dig up some scandal on them. She will be out of there so fast peoples heads will be spinning and they will be like wtf just happened? People need to wake up, get over their fear of a black president and get with the program before it is too late. |
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 4:56 AM
Just because someone is a Clinton supporter doesn't mean that they don't like black people. We're all entitled to our political beliefs and choices. I'm really tired of having to defend my opinion to other Democrats. I support Clinton and have from day 1 for a plethora of reasons, some personal and some political. That doesn't mean that I will be voting for McCain when Obama wins the nomination, it just means that out of the Democratic party candidates I believe Clinton will do a better job and has a higher likelyhood of winning the general election. Historically speaking, America preferes moderates, or at least they prefer more moderate Democrats. Mondale's and Dukakis's don't win; Carters and Clintons win. And its not just actual policies that influence the American voters, it's perception. The fact that Obama is rallying the youth is fantastic, but that's not the vote that historically wins elections either.
Are there some super shady things about the Clintons that I don't like? You betcha. Are we going to find out a lot about Obama's skeletons when he is nominated? Absolutely, and it's crazy to think otherwise. Is the Democratic party being torn apart? That's media hype, but it certainly has some validity when I see posts like some of the responses here. I'm entitled to vote for who I want to, and you are entitled to slam me all you want, but don't doubt how alienating it can be. I'm just as much of the party as the next guy, and your opinion is just your opinion, same as mine. I hope that I'm wrong in my belief that Obama will win the nomination and McCain will win the general election, but it'll take a lot of rallying by the youth that are getting Obama nominated to ensure that they get their friends out to vote. I hope his supporters stand by their golden boy when the going gets rough and he dosen't look so pretty anymore - this amazing wave of support needs to be ridden all the way until he is elected. |
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 7:20 AM
I hope youre right
I just wish the dems would realize that by making EachOther look bad, individually,
they make ThemSelvs look bad, as a whole. |
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 8:07 AM
Voting for someone because they are more moderate and you think that gives them a better chance of winning is not going to change a thing in this country. It will only keep things the way that they are. Thats fine, if you like things the way they are. Right , left and centrist are all relative to the current political climate. The moderates and some of the democrats today are like the republicans of 20 years ago. Yes! That's how far right we have gone, especially in the last 8 years. I'm not trying to attack anyone who is a Clinton supporter. I have people in my family who support them. Dove, as much as you are sick of being attacked for being a Clinton supporter I am sick of hearing people say Obama has no chance of beating Mc Cain or that he's too liberal or that he will be shot if he gets elected. You have opinions just like everyone else. As far as I'm concerned to claim that the American people want a more moderate president is media hype. Seriously though, is that what they really want? Take a look at what we've had for the last 8 years. Where are the moderates? Where were they in 2000 and 2004?
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 12:05 PM
Pete, I agree with so much of what you said, especially about the shift in political climate - Bill Clinton IMO was a moderate republican. The shift has gone so far to the right that most policies of democrats today are the policies of republicans 20 yeras ago, I totally agree.
So here is some food for thought...if McCain wins the election, Josh and I are considering not coming back from Africa after the Peace Corps. We're not sure where we are going to go but one thing is pretty clear now and will be much clearer then: this is not my country. I do believe our country is more "moderate" now, but I believe that means really it's more conservative. So then, is it fair for the wishes of the minority, ie liberals, to control the government? If, as you and I both agree, politics have shifted so far to the right, why in the world SHOULD we have a more liberal dem in office? My fear and really my belief is that it's not that people really want a change or a shift to the left, it's that they are comfortable right where they are, that they don't want a real change (they just want to pay less in gas), and that's its ME who has the problem. If democracy is majority rule, and I'm in the minority...maybe I should find a different country. |
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 7:54 AM
Dove, let me know where you and Josh go if McCain gets elected. I might join you. ;-)
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