natural flavor added

   Mon, November 17, 2008 - 10:13 AM
what the heck does that mean "natural flavor added"?

what is it? natural flavor describes to me a quality, or the possible intent in adding an ingredient, but what is the ingredient? what is the substance that is providing this "natural flavor"?

i have never (knowingly) tasted dog shit. it must have its own natural flavor, but i do not want it in my trader joe's "pomegranate a plenty" juice. and if i am wanting pomegranate a plenty, why would they feel a need to add some other flavor to it?


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Mon, November 17, 2008 - 11:12 AM
I have heard it is the yucky MSG, that they call natural flavor....
not very nice of them!

Mon, November 17, 2008 - 11:55 AM
MSG? crapola. omg. how irresponsible. many people are allergic to MSG. if that is true, it would not be the only example of the fda allowing the food industry to hide non-food under clever and cute natural-sounding names. there are over 100 names registered for aspartame (nutrasweet). this growing list of names is all that the manufacturer is required to put on the list of ingredients. i smell a rat.
Mon, November 17, 2008 - 4:06 PM
i found a website with the fda's definition of natural flavoring:

happily "natural flavoring" does not appear to be msg, but rather a processed derivative of natural food. but that does not mean it is good, safe, or natural, imo. refined table salt or sugar may be a derivative of natural food, but once it is refined it becomes unstable and toxic. and the question of what is "natural flavoring" is (at best) only vaguely answered by the federal regulation, but it still does not tell us even "what flavoring" from "which natural food".

happily the federal regulation seems to rule out dog poop and msg though.
Mon, November 17, 2008 - 4:49 PM
it turns out they add flavors of something not at all the thing you're buying because they've found, by fooling around I guess, that certain flavors bring out and enhance certain other flavors. Like pineapple flavor enhances cherries (like jam or juice), that's one I know for sure. They do this all the time in commercial flavored yogurts. Say you get lime yogurt or orange, it'll have other citruses in there but just not named. And also, nowadays a lot of things have been multiple-flavored for so long that people expect it to have that extra almost subliminal taste in there or it doesn't taste like the real thing to them, because they don't actually know what the real thing tastes like any more on its own. Of course these are probably things you don't ever eat, but since I am known to munch in the Forbidden Zone from time to time, I find these things out!
Mon, November 17, 2008 - 6:07 PM
oh good, i am glad it is not msg..... i heard that about 10 years ago or more....

interesting tho..... because i have been thinking it is time again to get another product', that i like allot... the MSM....

when i hear msg, i think MSM.....

here is about MSM

my teeth glow white at night when i take this stuff....
it glows in the bottle too...

MSM is derived from plants.. so no guarantees .. it has not a touch... of dog poo...

Mon, November 17, 2008 - 6:45 PM
well, i think i would prefer trace amounts of dog poo over many things that fda have approved.
Tue, November 18, 2008 - 1:06 PM
natural flavoring...
is only differentiated from "artificial flavoring" because the techniques used to create it are more archaic. And in no way superior, but it has also been found that people prefer to see natural flavoring on their ingredients list than artificial flavoring. Yes another tricky game of words played by our FDA/legislative bureaucratic system (not to absolve us of responsibility however with that remark). It is a highly evolved chemical process that is mostly executed in a belt of labs located in New Jersey. I read about the flavor labs in a book about McDonald's, the name of which escapes me now... but I was most highly intrigued by the natural flavoring chapter, being a vegetarian and organic-preferring girl. You should most definitely read that chapter and/or do more research on it, there's a LOT involved when you see "natural flavor". Thankfully as you say, not dog crap, though it's always possible that it's not vegetarian-
Tue, November 18, 2008 - 8:17 PM
hmmmm... i'd hate to be an intelligent, well-meaning, law-abiding dog living on a block with THAT sign !!! i'd think i could never go legally again !

i like the 'no poop here' signs i see in england... there's a wavy line wiggling above the poop, wafting up to heaven .. don't know if it is stink or steam...but it ads lively, spontaneous, spin to the rather impersonal graphics of the sign

natural flavor. thats interesting. i always assumed it constituted the company's 'secret special recipe' but maybe it does mean poop..tho most likely insect poop. like from those little itty bitty moths that hatch in my heath food bulk rice purchase. does eating moth larva constitute veering from one's vegetarian beliefs? i mean, when i squash those lil guys there's nothing there but dust. which is weird, too. i mean, one minute there is a living sentient being, no matter how ephemeral, the next minute-dust. and not much of it. i can't bear killing them. so i have fly paper strips around. i guess that's just passing the buck to the fly paper as executioner, eh?
Wed, November 19, 2008 - 7:02 AM
Wed, November 19, 2008 - 8:53 AM

100% juice (from concentrate), natural flavors added
Sat, January 31, 2009 - 12:04 AM
Dog shite may taste better than some of the "natural flavors" developed. My faves are the natural smoked flavor or the chemical compounds like color number 6. That's not an ingredient, it's maybe an ingredient yet it takes looking into chemistry to figure out what the heck it is !

I am pretty sure dog treats do taste better than lots of the favorite chem flavoring additions. But I'm not tellin ya how I found that out!
Sun, February 1, 2009 - 10:21 PM
FDA is trying to deviant our knowledge about nourishing...:[[[[
Wed, July 15, 2009 - 8:16 PM
LOL. Thank you for this sardonic, delightful, dark, murky, frightening..............................truthful window into the world of food service retail and may I never drink pommegranate juice again! HA! HA! HA!......
Fri, April 23, 2010 - 8:02 PM
I found a worm in my green giant frozen beans once...
...not sure if that was the all natural ingredients they were referring to.Recently I bought what was supposed to be Mandarin White Iced Tea. However there was no mandarin juice at all....and it tasted like had natural pear juice in it though...