The Soapbox (preach, Red Man)
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Fri, November 9, 2007 - 11:54 AM******
The word in some of the admin tribes is that Tribe.net is in serious financial peril. Peril that may make this site go away. Most of us belong to MySpace and/or Bebo and/or Facebook, yet we return to Tribe because it is what serves us best. There are even rumors that Tribe is down to less than five employees.
Given the above, would you be willing to pay a $5/mo subscription fee to tribe as a Premium Member? Premium Members might receive benefits such as ad-free usage, more customizable skins, or other such bells and whistles. Please, if you support tribe and are willing to pay HALF THE COST OF A MOVIE TICKET for one month of Premium Usage, respond to this blog post. Repost this in YOUR BLOG. Collect the yays and nays and forward them to Pi. After ten days I will summarize the results and forward them to the Admins.
Please Support Tribe
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Fri, November 9, 2007 - 12:21 PM
I'm not sure that $5 a month would go anywhere near what would be needed to sustain tribe... but I'd be willing to sign up. I don't think they've been all that secretive about the fact that tribe is basically being maintained out of Mark's pocket as a service to the community -- which says to me that it's going to die at some point and that's that. I actually thought that they only had 2 people working on it, so 5 is like 250% of what I thought...
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Fri, November 9, 2007 - 12:23 PM
Ach! I've formed attachments to several tribe friends. Of course I'd pay $5!
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Fri, November 9, 2007 - 12:38 PM
Sure!
I'd even pay $10 if we don't have to eat any more donuts...
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Fri, November 9, 2007 - 12:44 PM
I have no problem subscribing to a service that we all find to be invaluable!
I used to subscribe to Livejournal for the same reason. I'd rather pay a nominal fee and have it, than be forced to resort to *shudder* Myspace. |
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Fri, November 9, 2007 - 12:55 PM
Yay.
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Fri, November 9, 2007 - 1:47 PM
Tribe should go co-op! We round up a bunch of shareholders and buy it out together!
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Fri, November 9, 2007 - 1:52 PM
yes - definitely would pay for no ads
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Fri, November 9, 2007 - 3:08 PM
I'd pay 5 buckaroos...
...to keep this productivity thief alive.
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Fri, November 9, 2007 - 5:12 PM
Hell yes, I'd pay!
$5/ month, $10/month....take your pick.....I'd be glad to become a member of tribe.
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Fri, November 9, 2007 - 6:14 PM
Sign me up. Tribe members are more "vested" in the site than other social networking groups. I'll pay gladly.
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Fri, November 9, 2007 - 7:00 PM
Let's Face It...
I've been a strong supporter of Tribe.net since its beginning, and it has been the hub of my social life for five years now. Although I consider my connection to our community very valuable and have a lot of my life reflected here, I'm not sure paying for a sub-standard social networking service is really the way to go.
Tribe.net is dying. It not only falls down and can't get up way too often, it's really slow and has fallen way behind the curve as far as effective social networking is concerned. There hasn't been any improvements to it in a very long time. How long can we realistically prop up a dying horse, anyhow? Subscriptions may keep it alive for a while, but that will only go so far--there probably won't be any improvements to it. Our Tribal culture needs to evolve--and soon. If we can stay connected better elsewhere for free--why don't we? Mostly inertia, I think. I've been on Facebook, and some of the other sites, and there's definitely more of a learning curve, though also powerful tools for communicating, too (i.e. 3jam unlimited text messaging, or uploading photos directly from your mobile). I didn't feel like I *belonged* on Facebook before, but in a matter of a few short weeks I have about half of the friends I really care about on there. That's another thing about this new generation of social networking sites--everything moves a lot quicker. I realize faster isn't necessarily better in all instances, but when you rather upload an entire photo album instead of a single photo, it's pretty sweet! Anyhow, there's a Tribe.net Fallout Shelter group on Facebook that I just joined. As well as a SF Burners group... I guess what I'm really getting at is that our real connections will remain, even if/when Tribe.net falls down and doesn't get up again. Love & Aloha, +k- |
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Fri, November 9, 2007 - 7:31 PM
Hi Pi~
I've seen links to this blog from a few friends and just wanted to share that I've been thinking about the idea of paid memberships to financially support tribe as well. There are few "social networking sites" that I subscribe to and of those few tribe.net is the only one I use [multiple times] daily. I love the way tribe.net is laid out, the interactivity among users, the ease of use... well, I <3 tribe, plain and simple. Sure, there are improvements that I'd like to see but I realize that those improvements aren't going to magically happen without the necessary staff or funding. For all that tribe.net has provided for me in the few years I've been here I've gotten way more than I've paid for! (heh) I'd be willing to throw down $25-$100 a year for a tribe membership to keep the site alive and functioning. Honestly, I may fall off the online social networking map if tribe fell off the internet as I refuse to create a myfacebook profile. Noooooo! I would be really very sad to see tribe die out and the corporate info/marketing farm sites (as I consider myfacebook to be) win out. I think $5 a month would be MORE than worth keeping tribe.net alive for that reason alone! Thanks, Pi, for sharing this blog. It's good food for thought, if nothing else, in considering what this site, this social and networking arena, is worth to each member who uses it. ~purr~ ~rahna |
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Fri, November 9, 2007 - 9:01 PM
I would.
I think they should figure out some open source way though and see if anyone steps up to take it over and donate servers...I am sure there is some people here somewhere that may have resources to take it over...maybe open communication about difficulties rather than having to rely on rumours and second hand info.. |
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Fri, November 9, 2007 - 9:53 PM
Hell yeah, I'd pay $5 a month. The intimacy of tribe is unique. I'd hate to lose touch all my friends on here.
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Fri, November 9, 2007 - 10:28 PM
Hell yes count me in...for $5 or $10 tribe is sacred ground...please let the Admins know...?!
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Fri, November 9, 2007 - 11:18 PM
Hell yeah...count me in for $5 or $10 tribe is sacred ground...let the Admin's know we are behind them...?!
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 2:28 AM
yes yes yes!!!
I would easily pay $5 (or $10) a month for tribe.... it's the basis of my internet, um, interneting...... My homepage, personal biography, etc. I would *really* miss it if it went away....
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 3:47 AM
Yes, I would pay...
$5 or $10 a month to keep this up, running and improving. I've been on MySpace, Facebook, Zaadz, and Eons and there isn't anything that is anywhere near Tribe.
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 4:22 AM
count me in. it has become the greatest mean to stay in touch with the world of friends everywhere- don't know what id do without it!!
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 5:32 AM
i would gladly pay.
i have no other accounts like this...no MySpace...no Facebook... ...I have grown with Tribe and met amazing souls all over the world. yes. i would gladly pay. |
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 7:22 AM
My initial knee jerk reaction is "Hell No!"...but at seeing the suggestion of $5/mo...I'd be on board with that...I love Tribe, but w/ my new job don't get to indulge anywhere near like I used to or would again if I had the time...with that being said, I would MISS it and the consideration of no longer having the occassional access I can manage now, as an absolute loss. There are just too many creative options available if the motivation to utilize them were there, instead of charging it's most loyal supporters/subscribers...open communication about what the "real" or "bottom line" issues are would be a start and also help us all to not only realize the need(s) of Tribe.com as an operation but can spark our collective areas of expertise and experience in coming up with a "best practices" solution for all...or as close as is feasibly possible.
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 7:45 AM
I'd pay $5 a month, I love Tribe! It's the best of the networking sites!
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 8:04 AM
Yes, sign me up! Put a paypay donate button on every page, or maybe up on top on the left between the tribe logo and "home". Take donations of any size. I'll bet there'll be quite a response. Especially if you publish a page somewhere that shows how much is coming in and how you're spending it to get better hardware...
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 10:26 AM
Yes, I'd pay, gladly! Tribe is a huge part of my life.
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 12:13 PM
Make it a co-op!
We don't need another myspace.
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 12:22 PM
I'm willing to pay to have a decent tribe,net - especially as I am leaving both Facebook & MySpace.
I am leaving both Facebook and My Space because they've just made advanced deals to sell personal information of the people there including our web use habits
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 12:51 PM
I wish that Tribe had offered a subscription service years ago. I think they should have offered that before they decided to start having ads. Of all the social networking sites out there I feel Tribe has the best UI and overall design. Yes there are some things I may not like, but overall I find it to be the best. It's simple, straight forward and works.
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 1:38 PM
Count Me In
It's my main source of connecting with people...I'd be willing to pay to keep tribe alive!
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 1:38 PM
I have met so many wonderful people the past few years that I have been on Tribe, that I would be remiss if I allowed it to fade away. I am on MySpace as well, but I find the tribes much more useful here and easier to navigate than the groups on MySpace. I also like the fact that there aren't 200+ million people on here. It's a great little community and I would be fine with paying $5 per month to belong to Tribe.
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 2:00 PM
I really want Tribe to succeed, but honestly $5 a month is a lot for a social networking site. I'd expect much more benefits for that amount, such as allocation to a faster server and more proifle features.
$25 a year for premium membership seems more appropriate. Just about every other network out there is free and the ones that do have a pay service for premium levels are in the $12-$20 per year range. Compare that with the $60 a year being suggested here. I hope the owners find a way to keep Tribe going. It's been the most beneficial and enjoyable site I use. but I've read some interesting things in the Tribe Bug and Ideas types of tribes. from posts it seems that the princpals haven't been making smart decisions regarding how to market Tribe and get advertisers. They've either ignored or feared the "alternative" demographic that makes up a large portion of tribe (as opposed to the more homegenous/generic MySpace and Facebook). That's not something that funding from members can help. In other words, I've gotten the impression that the problems are not simply due to lack of funding, but poor decision making. I wish the staff or owners would give some info, ANY info about what's going on. Tribe has such a dedicated, loyal membership that WANTS to help. but meanwhile, I'm preparing for The End: I've gone through my profile and backed up images, blog entries and profile content. I've started going through tribes and saving important or informational posts. I've listed alternate ways to reach me at the top of my profile. and I've made several backup networks for people to retreat to. |
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 3:10 PM
Id be happy to contribute,- as the only site online I am willing to contribute so far.. apart from my own website ;-)
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 5:52 PM
I support tribe
i've fallen back in love w/tribe since the Great CEO/censorship/UI Disaster was reversed. I've used a *bunch* of network services, and tribe is still the best functioning system out there, and the kind of people attracted to tribe tend to be the most intelligent and progressive. I agree tribe is in trouble partly due to some management mistakes in the past, but the worst have already been reversed and a new marketing strategy coupled w/regaining some dev staff would regain momentum, with an infusion of funds to jump-start. The co-op idea is not bad, could sell voting shares.
I don't like elitist stuff like premium memberships, but I'd deal with it, esp if it wasn't greatly different in profile functions (say, just getting ad-free service) I wouldn't commit to payment plan, but I think having 'donate' buttons is an excellent idea. I'm a performer and event organizer. I would donate performance at a fund-raiser, would organize event if we had a venue. Other performers, tech/event crew, artists and the like who'd donate time/wares to a tribe fundraiser , please sign in below and/or message me w/e-addy and/or ph#. triple points for anybody whos got a venue, big space, or knows somebody who does, who can donate.. (our crew would handle clean-up, etc, minimize foot-print.) |
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 6:08 PM
fundraiser volunteers can sign up here
sanfrancisco.tribe.net/templa...tail.vm
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 6:17 PM
Okay...
This morning I did some conservative math and realized that Tribe.net actually would be able to improve--and even thrive under Pi's business model. In fact, I'd even be interested in taking up a direct role in helping make that happen...
So yes, count me in! +k- |
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 7:03 PM
I'd be willing to pay $5 even to keep it the way it is.
well, I'd prefer to kick google-search to the curb,but you know what I mean -- I don't need "premium" content. tribe IS premium content. |
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 10:48 PM
I just spent $40 for sushi, and couldn't wait to get home to tribe.
I'd glady pay more than $60 per year. I second the donation botton thing too to get Tribe back on it's feet. |
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Sun, November 11, 2007 - 12:58 AM
Part of what makes me love Tribe is that it is so community oriented, real, and FREE. I think if they started charging, other "Tribe" like spaces would pop up for us to transition over to. However, with that being said, if it was a choice between being bombarded by commercialism OR paying $5 a month to keep it the same, I'd pay the $5.
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Sun, November 11, 2007 - 1:46 AM
*clicking heels*
There's no place like tribe. There's no place like tribe. There's no place like tribe.
Whatever we need to do to secure our home, I'm willing. except standing on my head naked. That just wouldn't be pretty... : D |
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Sun, November 11, 2007 - 6:42 AM
Yes, I would pay. However
Tribe has been down to less than 5 employees (2 to be exact) for some time now. I would pay to keep tribe up, but if they are in serious financial trouble any money paid to them will be to bail them out, not to employ more people or work on adding 'perks' or even make the site more stable. Don't get me wrong, I would still pay to keep tribe afloat. I don't even need 'perks', just a stable site. |
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Sun, November 11, 2007 - 10:07 AM
I'd pay
sure, I pay for salon premium because I what they do. I like what tribe does, so yeah. I'd support it.
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Sun, November 11, 2007 - 10:24 AM
yep, I'd definitely support it - 5 bucks a month is a drop in the bucket compared to losing it all together.
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Sun, November 11, 2007 - 10:28 AM
i'm down. lets do it. i panicked the other day when i thought tribe wasnt coming back.
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Sun, November 11, 2007 - 10:42 AM
yes, i'd pay too
i really use tribe and the idea of having to move all that over to facebook is rather horrifying . . .
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Sun, November 11, 2007 - 11:58 AM
so how do we make this $5 monthly donation?
I have not see a link for such financial requests.. |
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Sun, November 11, 2007 - 3:51 PM
I'd pay.
And lot's of people I know would NEVER use FaceBook due to the contract one needs to sign...
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Sun, November 11, 2007 - 3:51 PM
I'd pay.
And lot's of people I know would NEVER use FaceBook due to the contract one needs to sign... (I added this comment also in the people.tribe.net/pi/blog/7...d97c94b047 thread, and made a copy of the blog post.)
Thanks. |
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Sun, November 11, 2007 - 3:53 PM
I'm in. I love Tribe and loved ones are always worth saving.
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Sun, November 11, 2007 - 5:53 PM
It Won't Work
A subscription networking site will ultimately fail when competing against the free sites like myspace. A better plan would be for all users to click on one of the ads each time they log in. This is how the Tribe owners generate revenue, through clicks.
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Sun, November 11, 2007 - 9:02 PM
Yes, count me in as well
Certainly there are other sites out there. A number of us have gone to Ning.com because it is the closest to Tribe.net........ but it's not Tribe.net and most of us that have done this have done so to have a place to keep in contact in case the tragic day should come that tribe goes away.
I certainly will support a paying option, especially one that is only $60 a year. |
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Sun, November 11, 2007 - 11:19 PM
Hmm, I heard that they had 3 employees, last time I asked. I'm frustraited by the outages, but myspace and facebook don't really satisfy my social networking needs. I like the idea of a $25/yr premium membership more than the idea of a $5 monthly, but eitherway I don't want it to die.
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Sun, November 11, 2007 - 11:49 PM
Yes I would pay 5 dollars a month.......subscription fee...... I do love tribe...Love katherine
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Mon, November 12, 2007 - 9:09 AM
I would definitely pay for membership, no question about it!
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Mon, November 12, 2007 - 10:42 AM
I'd be happy to pay as long as the site could improve stability. Maybe switching to a paid subscription would reduce the size of the Tribesphere back to a population that could be managed effectively with the current hosting system.
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Mon, November 12, 2007 - 4:44 PM
i would pay $5...
i don't even feel comfortable putting the self that i put on tribe out on facebook or my space... tribe is like family... |
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Mon, November 12, 2007 - 5:02 PM
yes, i would definitely pay for Tribe. i think it has helped change community. i reposted this on my blog.
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Mon, November 12, 2007 - 5:16 PM
Sure, if that will help.
My concern would be that tribe is beyond the "point of no return".
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Mon, November 12, 2007 - 5:40 PM
tribe changed my life. seriously. and it wasn't just one chance encounter, i feel like it's played a pivotal role in connecting me to some powerful people that i never would have met any other way.
that it came back from corporate hell and now may fade out due to no revenue makes me sad. but perhaps membership is the only way for tribe to survive. tribe.net functions differently from the other social networks and to me anyway, promotes more genuine human interaction than the posturing that goes on in myspace and the meaningless poking over at facebook. i'd gladly pay $5/month for tribe. i've gotten so much out of it, i feel like i owe them so much more as corny as that sounds. |
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Mon, November 12, 2007 - 5:42 PM
I would pay a subscription, but ONLY if they offered free services to the general populace that looked as good as it does now with an upgrade or something for subscription.
-Tayissa |
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Mon, November 12, 2007 - 5:59 PM
put up the paypal button NOW y'all
just start it
I'm in for $5 /mo sooooooo much sweeter than MyCrap.... |
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Mon, November 12, 2007 - 6:30 PM
Hmmm...
Lord knows I love my TRIBE. It is intimate and personal for ME because I've CREATED it that way. All of my FRIENDS on Tribe are people I actually KNOW or have met at least once. There are about 2 exceptions to that rule. There are no RANDOMS I communicate with on a regular basis here. I've also created my brand new Facebook account with one of my MANY email addresses. They can sell that email address all they want. It was created for spam crap anyway, but it is serving its purpose. I'm also finding more and more of my TRIBE friends on Facebook and recruiting more to Bazaar's site. MYSPACE sucks all day and night, to be sure. I do intend to create the closest thing I can to TRIBE on Facebook or on Bazaar's Ning account. We do actually have alternatives. For sure whatever I post elsewhere will be less personally detailed because I haven't been able to find the FRIENDS ONLY option for posting.
I also DON'T like the idea of being dependent upon ONE networking site, which I found I had become when TRIBE starting fucking up on a regular basis. Options are crucial. Backups are just smart. I'd be into paying something that is on par with a fair market rate. Is $60 a year a fair market rate for what TRIBE offers compared to other internet networking services? Will that guarantee reliability and up to date improvements? Having said all that, I DO love TRIBE! I love that my FAMILY is on TRIBE! My LA burner community and some of my newly adopted Bay area Burner community are on here too, as well as the New Yorkers, Washington and Oregon peeps. I love that the Burner community far and wide makes TRIBE their home. It's worth keeping around. I'm definitely in support of that. I'm also giving myself other options if it collapses. That's my 47.5 cents on the topic on top of the $5 a month, if that's what it turns out to be. :-) |
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Mon, November 12, 2007 - 7:00 PM
Gladly. Especially if it would get rid of the friggin donots freaking out.
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Mon, November 12, 2007 - 7:18 PM
Of course I would throw money in!
Hell, I pay money for yearly usage of FLICKR and LIVEJOURNAL. And I LOVE TRIBE. I really love the connections & community here. I don't want it to disappear.... my blessings & LOVE to Tribe!!! Although, I do think that paying should be voluntary, not mandatory. |
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Mon, November 12, 2007 - 7:50 PM
Heck yeah!
I'd be more than happy to pay $5/mo.....
Tribe is really the only networking site of its kind, and it would be sad to lose such a great resource!!! |
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Mon, November 12, 2007 - 10:12 PM
yes, I'd pay $5/month
Originally I was a tribe user, then using myspace and facebook got a bit overwhelming because my interactions and info shared began to seem trivial and irrelevant, so I kinda quit using the social networking sites all together, and fell out of the loop. Now that I am back on Tribe for the first time in months, I am refreshed to find that my site has not gotten cluttered up with a bunch of BS, and that my friends and family are all still here and active -- why did I stop checking my tribe page!?! I am going to use this frequently again, as I did before I ever got suckered into signing onto myspace and facebook. I would be willing to pay $5/month.
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Mon, November 12, 2007 - 10:45 PM
I love Tribe and would hate to lose it! So we have these ads on every page... would it help keep advertisers interested in staying on if they got more traffic from here? I'm sure they track where the hits come from... so click on an ad every time you log in. At least the advertisers would see more traffic as more potential sales, more reason to keep paying for ad space and supporting Tribe. Yes, I would be willing to pay a small fee, but in the long run how does that compete with free sites like MySpace and Facebook, etc? |
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 12:11 AM
cisco?
so....um...isn't tribe owned by cisco? Didn't they purchase earlier this year? why the financial need?
I do love tribe, but truthfully don't use it enough to consider paying, though may change my mind. |
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 5:51 AM
$5/yes....So long as it is optional for us to be a premium member....Too many tribe friends would fall by the wayside if they HAD to pay something regularly. Perhaps whoever holds the reins here might also consider throwing a big Tribe Benefit party, and draw from the mass talent that exists within Tribe for entertainment & whatnot. hmmm... |
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 7:40 AM
Throwing money at tribe is not the solution
If tribe's going broke, that means they have a failed business model. Throwing a few bucks into it is not going to save it. If you want tribe to survive, then convert it to an open source project and open it to community management, a la Wikipedia.
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 9:29 AM
I second Shivakti's comments. I would gladly be a premium user, but I'd love to see a free option for those that can't pay.
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 10:26 AM
Undeniably, YES!! The amount of love that I receive from my community on a regular basis is TOTALLY worth $5 a month, not to mention the capability for promotional use. I do also believe that the fee should be for added "perks" such as extended promotional use, and I believe that a "free" option should still exist which could include perhaps one promo monthly for those that would like to have that option and still not have to pay a fee. I know alot of people where $5 a month is going to sound like alot to them.
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 12:02 PM
I'm also in love with Tribe but I'm of the personal opinion that the current employees have day jobs elsewhere - that's the exact feeling you get when it goes down at such predictable times and for so long. I don't know what happened to any $ earned from the Cisco sale, but it apparently isn't available now and something or someone essential was lost as a result of the deal. I'd be willing to pay for membership (and I don't care about ads, have trained self to not even see ads on any site) but I pay only $10/year for Yahoo, for example, and get a ton of services there, so $60 is a lot for the marketplace, and I gather from comments that maybe a third or a half of current Tribe would find that undoable.
Here's the question: Do we give $ to put Tribe on life support for awhile because we love it and can't face its death???? Or do we accept that it's been basically abandoned as a living entity and somehow get some new blood to run it and have a mutual understanding that we'll pay for a well-run site only??? Being sentimental is the wrong way to go, because you just feel Tribe under current business model is a goner, so why throw money at it and prolong the inevitable with no actual improvement?? Instead pool/raise $ for a new model with some accountability to subscribers?? And make it possible for those who can't afford it to participate too? |
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 5:07 PM
5 bucks, huh?
Hillary Clinton has been getting on my nerves lately...hell, tribe deserves the $5 a month! I'm in. |
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 5:20 PM
www.mediaweek.com/mw/news/r...isplay.jsp
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 5:32 PM
Save Tribe
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 6:19 PM
In for $5
Five bucks a month? Sure, why not? I've been on Tribe for some 164 years so far so can't give it up now.
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 6:38 PM
First they give you a little taste for free, then.....
Of course I'd be in. What? lose my major form of entertainment and stimulation, my friends. I' m hooked. |
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 7:07 PM
what a long list
I love tribe. 5$ or a crack rock? hmmm . .
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 7:44 PM
Yes!
Tribe has become a part of my daily life and i dont know what i would do without it
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 9:39 PM
definitely want to pay to keep this crucial site alive! i'd even pay $20 month!
and i'd be happy if it just stayed the same, no need for premium services that you mention, i'm ok with the ads, no skins, etc. i love it just the way it is! thanks |
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 9:40 PM
Stumbled accross Tribe on a random search for anything Burning Man... holy crap, success!
And there is so much more about this community including health topics, world events, etc., but with personal insight and interaction like no where else. And wow, LOVE the pics, openness, and humor! I'm hooked. Other sites repell me. Tribe attracts. It's a chemistry thing. I think of this site as some kind of evolution away from the passive consumption of preprocessed TV to an active, free exchange with real folks thru basically the same 2-D medium of flashing tiny dots. Cool, finally an evolution. Tribe... don't tribes have pow-wows? Gatherings, concerts, parties, art shows,... I dunno, but an occasional fundraiser that jumps off the screen into the 3-D would attract a few of my $'s up and over the 5 I'm willing to throw as a life preserver... no problem, my plea$ure. |
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 10:02 PM
my $5 worth
it's worth that and more to me, the very best of its kind and the people behind it seem sincere and good-hearted.
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 10:18 PM
yes, i would pay the $5
i met one of my closest friends on tribe :0) now i feel bad about bitching about all the lil' technical glitches lately...as i had no idea... sorry tribe |
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 11:58 PM
yup. I'd anti-up it. Its much better than the other sites out there...
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 1:47 AM
Worth it
I'd be willing to pay $5 a month but i'd want to have more input over services provided. Like how about ...
Instant Messaging!! |
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 2:19 AM
just click on the adds
that's all it takes. they get paid for every click.
just click on 2 or 3 adds every time you visit... |
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 4:08 AM
in support of tribe
I too would be willing to pay $5/month to support tribe.
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 6:30 AM
This is one of the most amazing sites on the entire internet ! I would be willing to pay between $10-$5 dollars a month easily...
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 7:16 AM
I am there. This is the only site I feel I have a true connection wtih my friends.
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 7:17 AM
Someone up there said:
"I really want Tribe to succeed, but honestly $5 a month is a lot for a social networking site. I'd expect much more benefits for that amount, such as allocation to a faster server and more proifle features. $25 a year for premium membership seems more appropriate. Just about every other network out there is free and the ones that do have a pay service for premium levels are in the $12-$20 per year range. Compare that with the $60 a year being suggested here." I tend to agree. I'm happy to pay the $20 to upgrade LiveJournal, and I'd pay the same for Tribe, but I'm unlikely to shell out $60 a year for any kind of online subscription service. I adore tribe, but I also think that cost is more than the market will successfully bear, especially for the starving artists. Sometimes getting a million people to pay a dollar for something is better than getting one hundred thousand people to pay five, dig? |
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 7:59 AM
im with maya. . . (b4 me here). . . . 20-25 / yr sounds better to me. . .
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 8:59 AM
I LOVE TRIBE
and would hate to see it go, yes, I would pay!
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 10:04 AM
hmmm, yeah fuck it. I'd pay five bucks for premium tribe. I mean, this thing has given me so much and to think that I wouldn't have the compassion and pay-it-forward enough to spend $5? Easy. Thats less than a cheeseburger. And I rarely eat out.
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 10:30 AM
I'll give ya my papal account whenever you want me to!
that's a AYE! matey! |
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 10:36 AM
ok, for 5 bucks premium i want to be able to search my mail. Thats for sure. Extra skins would be cool. and maybe a music player too...that DOES NOT PLAY unless someone clicks " play ". I love sharing sounds and searching mail.
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 10:46 AM
i would absolutely pay to keep tribe....i hope that if the subscription model is the way that tribe goes, it will allow the admins to beef up the functionality in the nearish term, though. there's lots of things i'd rather see than customizable skins....like blog tracking/being able to turn people's blog display on & off by member, maybe a revisiting of the TOU, etc.
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 10:56 AM
i am interested into keeping this site alive
and i'm ready to paying a small fee. paix long life to tribe.net |
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 10:57 AM
Um is it true that the owner of Tribe.net, Mark Pincus is now into Texas Hold'em Poker??
I'm wondering if that is where some of the money that people are wanting to donate is headed?? Does anyone find that to be a little.. um strange given all the outages on this site and the lack of $$ to keep things up and running .... www.facebook.com/apps/application.php I'm just askin' |
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 12:14 PM
I think the important part is the premium member paying for more better services part.
Alot of my folks on tribe couldn't pay anything and if they had to be cut off because of that I would be pissed. (Talkin folks in other countries, vagabondish folks with no credit cards, and possibly even me I don't always have five bucks I can spare from a month, honestly sometimes, but not always) I think there are enough yes people. It would probably want to be marketed in such a way that people know that they are contributing to keeping it alive and maybe even semi-pervasive ads to send the five bucks to the folks who haven't done it yet or who can't. But tribe is rad there is alot going on here that doesn't exist on the other sites that is good awesome interaction friendly stuff |
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 12:16 PM
I'd pay $5 a month, but not $10 (that's $120/year!!).
I wish Tribe would get music capable. That's the only thing myspace has over tribe, IMHO. |
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 12:27 PM
Hell yes' "Save our Tribe" count me in bro for sure' we got way too much good stuff going on here to lose it all
Blessings' Motamba' nangona' |
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 1:42 PM
Paying for things that should be free....
I will pay $5 per month, but it better keep tribe running, make it more available, and faster.
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 2:06 PM
This is a unique place on the net. I've made some good friends here. I'd do it happily.
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 4:36 PM
more here
people.tribe.net/babyblue/...b#comments |
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 5:16 PM
I'll pay it, because if I have to go to myspace...oh God!
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 5:49 PM
power to the tribe
i am bummed to hear about that pesky $ flow getting in the way of good people doing good things.
i love tribe, it is the only internet networking i do, and it is very important to me beacause of the distance i live from any large towns, or citys. i would happily pay 5$ a month 60$ anually. |
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Wed, November 14, 2007 - 6:23 PM
$5 sure....
but someone said they'd pay $20/month? Holy shit....i mean cmon now. |
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 3:47 AM
well...
i may well pay that if i knew it was gonna keep tribe alive....
but does that means my existing friends that dont pay..just dissapear one day.... it would need an option to stay using it for free mmmmm..... if this early prototype holodeck does dematerialize then lets just remember its given us hope that there are many other evolving and beautiful beings out there on our Mothership Earth and SEE this is just another baby step towards re-member-ing our global telempathy... Love and Blessings to u all power to all tribes with or without tribe.net |
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 6:46 AM
** PEEEP!!!
uuum, can't imagine not being able to connect with ya'll. Yes, I'd pay mothafucka!! Does that retire the creator of 'Tribe?
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 9:37 AM
I love tribe and don't want it to go away. I think I can spare $5/month.
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 9:44 AM
hmmmm...interesting. would you be able to pay for a years membership up front?
what would "premium" members get? it sounds like a good plan... any plans to re-do how the advertising is done? i think there is a better way to do it so that the advertisiers get more exposeur and that tribe can make more money.... |
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 9:53 AM
I vote 'NO'
This is a tough theoretical for me.
On the one hand, I love the tribe community, and no other social networking site out there has tribe's unique flavor. On the other hand, regardless of what the source of the recent troubles has been (and it likely is at least partially $), I have been very turned off by tribe's handling of it, and I've lost faith in their commitment to their users/community. I'm pretty tired (as I'm sure everyone is) of swallowing 'donuts' all the time -- but they would go down a lot easier if the tribe administrators had the courtesy of acknowledging the problem directly and addressing the community. It would be as easy as sending a global message out to all members expressing 'Hey, we're very sorry for this, we're trying to work it out, please have patience,' etc. -- and throw us a bone (not a donut) giving us a clue as to what is going on. That would at least be a no-cost way of assuring us that they're not oblivious to our frustration and don't take us for granted. At the moment, it's hard for me to countenance paying a fee (be it $5, $1, $10, whatever) for this kind of service, and considering that other free sites (facebook, etc.) offer much more in terms of usablity, interface, expandability, stability, etc. I also don't believe that just throwing money at it would necessarily solve what might be a more fundamental problem. **** I have to differ with the strategy suggested of clicking on the Google ads as a way to save tribe. **** Gratuitous clicks will, for sure, increase tribe's revenue in the short term, as they are paid for each. However, each of these advertisers meticulously tracks the sources and results of their received clicks through Google Analytics -- and online advertisers know how to sniff out gratuitous click campaigns. When the advertisers see that suddenly tribe's users have provided an exponentially higher volume of clicks -- yet not a high sell-through (clicks that actually result in a sale transaction) -- they will simply stop advertising on tribe, because it's suddenly costing a lot more to advertise on tribe, yet the resultant revenue has not increased proportionally. So I think the idea of us all clicking on ads (that wouldn't normally interest us anyway, or we would already be clicking on them) would be very detrimental to tribe, and ultimately could put tribe in an even worse financial position. I do agree of course that we can all contribute by inviting more people to tribe..... But then, I suppose it could be argued that everyone we already know in our 'community' (burners, artists, freaks, etc.) already knows about tribe, so inviting newbies would require inviting people further and further away from that core community (our 'normal' friends, etc.) -- so that while the pool may expand in size, it also gets diluted -- loses its flavor and edge, and has the demographics more of facebook etc. -- in which case why don't we just use that anyway -- at least it works. Whatever, I'm rambling. TRIBE IS DEAD. LONG LIVE TRIBE! |
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 10:04 AM
$5 a Month?
No Problem. I would pay it for tribe. Though I must admit that I like the idea of putting up a donation button as well and then sponsoring friends who maybe don't have credit card or use tribe and can't afford the monthly fees. Just my 2 cents.
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 10:44 AM
first off tribe ROCKS and i love this community but...
paid socail media network site wont be the same if you charge for it. less ppl will join and others will leave and yet some who would want to be apart of the community wont be able cause of the costs. like said before if the biz model isnt working correctly then putting cash into it wont help but to keep it going in the same shape with the problem still occuring. how about the companies within that make and sell products pay for advo space ? even artist, musicians and such could pay for advo spots. find companies who products are substainable since this is a growing field in society. for now have everyone who want this site to stay click on those ads that are here now. if we all did this say 10 times a month or so would be about the same as paying the $5 a month. the ppl here for the most part only mention 3 different social media sites when infact there's 100s upon 100s of them (message boards, page style(tribe), blogs and more) and almost all free something tribe cant compete with. we if they charge a monthly/yearly fee. could just take over one of them.....imeem.com (i'll start a " tribe refugees " group (just incase but hopefully i'll have to delete it cause tribeland will overcome this delema) what the tribe needs is all those biz ppl, computer pros, networks to combined there efforts to redesign the current failing biz model and help support this site like a collective of truely likeminded folks should. my bands are willing to do tribe benefit parties and i would volunteeer my time to help. with all that said.........NO i wouldnt pay a monthly/yearly fee for tibe.net....... |
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 10:51 AM
Pay by Donation??
YES - I would pay to support Tribe.
But rather than a mandatory monthly fee - I prefer the idea of a voluntary donation model. People can click a button to make a donation via paypal. This would allow people to pay what they think it is worth and on a sliding scale and still allow people who can't afford it or don't know what it's all about to join and participate. Tribe wouldn't be worth as much to me if people were excluded based on their ability to pay or new people were unlikely to join. I was thinking of donations when I landed on Wikipedia's site the other day - wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate |
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 11:00 AM
I agree with everyone above. This is the one network where people are real and you really get to connect, so $5 would be simple to keep things up.
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 11:45 AM
GUYS: READ THIS PLEASE
This seems to come up in every "nay" reply here:
This is an idea for a PREMIUM subscription. Nobody with a free subscription would be kicked out of Tribe and their subscriptions would remain free. In fact, we could even include a 'donate' button (as suggested) and an "Adopt a Tribester" button if people want to help out somebody who can't afford to UPGRADE to premium subscription. Not one single tribester will be booted, and free subscriptions will still be available. Premium Subscriptions would have some enhanced features (more skins, improved search features, etc.). |
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 11:49 AM
save the TRIBE ! !
I think paying something would be a good idea,
however......@ 5.00 a month that's 60per year. How about 30per year? I dunno.. LONG LIVE THE TRIBE OF MAN. |
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 12:05 PM
Me! Me!
I love Tribe, it's my preferred online community. I'd be happy to pay for it. |
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 12:13 PM
paying has a priviledge
hi yes i would be happy to pay $5 if that actually represents something tangible that is a benefit to *me.*
what i want for my $5: i want to be able to respond to a tribe posting/notice email etc from *inside* my own mail client. if you don't pay you have to sign in, if you do pay you can be a lazy bum (or just heavily monitored at work) like me and stay in touch remotely. others have posted some good ideas too i think it seems that a lot of folks are in agreement that if you want us to cough up cash for something then we want something in return. 2 cents officially tossed in the fountain |
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 12:27 PM
$5.00 a month comes out to something like fifteen cents a day - hell yes I'd pay that - probably a little more!
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 12:27 PM
Tribe selling out?
I've heard a theory from a couple people now that made me wonder...
That tribe is essentially dead-broke, has not plans for change, and is simply biding its time right now and waiting to sell its membership list or site before shutting down. Considering that there have been no notable improvements in forever, and no communication from tribe admin about what's going on and what their plans are -- this might not be so far-fetched.... |
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 12:57 PM
????
As a sys admin for a couple of large, established websites (100k+ members, lotsa traffic), I'm not clear that the outages have anything directly to do with tribe "going out of business", but more of fixed resources and conflicting priorities. For one, once a site is designed and built, as long as you commit to maintain the release, you're primarily in bug-fix mode, and just keeping logs clear, etc. If your storage/traffic is growing, then you WILL have issues relative to capacity, possibly db performance issues as well. The architecture of a small site with 25k users is not the same as what you need to support a million users, especially when the site content is variable and user-generated. The nature of the failures/outages we've witnessed doesn't tell me the bills aren't being paid, but that their staff which has been loaned out for what I understand, can't get back to address the cause of the crashes. If they hadn't paid for some aspect of hosting infrastructure, they'd get cutoff and you wouldn't see anything at all, so my impression is that they are not committing to spend $$$$ to EXPAND capacity and are having load issues which RESULT in catastrophic failures and possible db corruption and data loss. For me, the question is - they have a business, they have a platform, they have a user base, they have contracts (NDAs) and commitments, it is not rocket science to run a small business and ask for $$$ if you need it, but yet they remain quiet... WHY? Only they can answer that question!!!! |
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 1:02 PM
For one
I'd love to see the core platform for tribe released as an open source portal... |
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 2:22 PM
I change my vote..... I want Tribe to continue... but I'd rather not pay $60 a year. Can they find a way to keep Tribe existing on two platforms... those that want premium and will pay for it and those that just want it free. Or what about the ideas people had about some people donating money. If enough people want to donate money, would that be enough? I would consider paying $25-35/year for premium.
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 2:25 PM
But I'd be even happier if it was $9.95-19.95 a year for premium.... and with the amount of users you have... you could easily cover your costs with just $9.95 a year from each user.
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 2:49 PM
Pi -
Thanks for the clarification today. I didn't realize that it would still be inclusive but that the $5 would by a "premium" subscription. |
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 4:41 PM
Could just be getting people's attention tactic
Early 2007 - Tribe was bought by Cisco who also bought Five Across, a social networking infrastructure service.
Cisco introduces ‘Entertainment operating system’ blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/ 10/18/2007 Based on technology and teams from recent acquisitions Tribe.net and Five Across, Cisco has 40 developers in San Francisco working on the white label platform that he said would “combine the best of community, video and discovery on an integrated platform.” Cisco will launch Eos next year. “We will be relevant in this marketplace,” Scheinman said. He said he was interested in what bloggers had to say about the platform, but there isn’t much to comment on at this point. n other words, consumers will be faced with more and more Web content and traditional discovery methods are breaking down, and Cisco will be there to save users from Web pains with an end-to-end solution, from the switches, routers and set-top boxes to an “entertainment-class, community-based”user experience. A scenario that warms the heart of John Chambers. |
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 6:19 PM
Why is Tribe silent...?
It seems to me that if some kind of paid subscription were a viable way to keep Tribe afloat and improving, this option would be proposed by Tribe admin itself. Their silence during all these problems has been deafening. I've seen no indication that Tribe is on a trajectory of growth or improvement (remember, before it started going down with outages, it was at best stagnant in improvement) -- nor do they seem interested in the opinions of its members. If they were, it seems they would have this discussion on their own admin blog....
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 7:55 PM
Yeah, I'd pay for Tribe, but I like the idea of paying one fee annually. Also, prehaps us members could then have a say as to who runs Tribe and have some input as to how we think it's running.
I love Tribe and was very moved looking at the list of people who have commented on this list. I don't know most of you, but we are all connected now. |
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 11:28 PM
tribe demographic background
fyi, just to provide some insight into users, volume, etc. www.quantcast.com/tribe.net even with the trend downward, this site generates A LOT of traffic. |
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Fri, November 16, 2007 - 12:29 AM
considering the time spent here
$10 a month seems like quite a deal.
Count me in. |
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Fri, November 16, 2007 - 6:23 AM
Please don't go away!
I would pay my $5.00 and there are many other ways to work this as well! Tribe is world wide, you just cannot go! You just can't we have too many talented and resourceful people here that could help make this the best site out there! ( to me it already is!) |
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Fri, November 16, 2007 - 8:12 AM
Yes!
I like the paypal donation model better, but YES, I would be willing to dish $5. |
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Fri, November 16, 2007 - 8:16 AM
I'm personally not too keen on contributing any cash to Tribe until/unless we actually hear something from them explaining what's going on and what their plans are. If they demonstrated a genuine commitment to keep Tribe strong and improving, and if they then offered some kind of paid premium subscription, then I'd probably go for it. But so far, this conversation has been solely among the users and the conspicuously absent voice is that of Tribe itself. I'm sure they'd gladly accept our money, but unless they themselves are committed to this, then I think those contributions wouldn't result in anything tangible or lasting for us...
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Fri, November 16, 2007 - 8:23 AM
Please check here for the actual details.
people.tribe.net/glen/blog...5e3a2d1c13 |
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Fri, November 16, 2007 - 9:07 AM
heck yeah!
Absolutely! Tribe is a wonderful and unique realm!
BTW, can you up the charges for all those advertisers we see all over the site? I would think it would be a lot easier for them to come up with the moolah to support you guys since they get a LOT of visibility out here! |
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Fri, November 16, 2007 - 2:11 PM
yeah, sure, $5 is definately worth it- tribe saved me from myspace!
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Fri, November 16, 2007 - 5:36 PM
Yes, I would be happy to pay $5 to keep seeing all my freaky friends faces in one spot! Even though I have taken a break from being on it so much, I love the fact that it's always there...and I can always log on to see what's happening socially or in my friends lives. It is like a huge awesome groovy family!
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Sat, November 17, 2007 - 7:09 PM
I would pay $9.95 / month...... I have tribe withdrawls when it's down.
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Sat, November 17, 2007 - 7:20 PM
$5/month is a spit in the bucket. I won't even blink when I pay it - even if it's for nothing more than to keep it going without any 'extra' benefits.
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Sat, November 17, 2007 - 9:13 PM
I would pay $5.00 a month, having said that, click on the ads that suite your intertests I've actually gotten some nice bellydance costume pieces off the ads to the side, & some sites are fun to drool over.
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Sat, November 17, 2007 - 11:52 PM
Yes, but...
As long as site access remained open to all for free, with ads and whatever, and $5 a month could opt out of ads, then that sounds viable.
But I haven't seen an ad on tribe for a very long time, and I can assure you many other tribers haven't either - a few simple lines in your browser config files remove them all. Now before anybody starts pissing and moaning that that's why Tribe is failing, let me just say that there is no way I would bother using this if I had to have that slop in my face all the time I was here - so there has been no revenue lost, and on the contrary I have gotten other folks to sign up (and no, I don't share my no-ads info with them - if it bothers them then they can figure it out). But I do give money to services I like, and sometimes even if I don't like them in particular, as long as I think they are doing a good service that I want to see in my community. I buy CDs of musicians I go to hear, donate to freeware/shareware, patronize neighborhood businesses, etc. etc., and I would welcome the ability to do that for Tribe. Particularly if that could help them address some serious deficiencies. I almost feel like this should be one of those cases where the tenants of a building buy out the landlord - it rarely works well in the default world, but that kind of thing can do very well in cyberspace. But if this is just a stopgap measure for the parent corporation to squeeze some last bucks out of Tribe before canning it, then let the market do it's dirty work. Ciao! - Lorne |
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Sun, November 18, 2007 - 3:33 AM
Yep, if....
We could go back to, oh, 2003/04 "rules", i.e., whatever pix etc. we wanted.
Before err1 got all scurred. :) |
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Sun, November 18, 2007 - 6:56 AM
Okay, here's the thing for me, and it's partly generational. I am not all that big on social networking sites, not any of them. Yes, I DO have a MySpace site (actually two- a personal site so I can comment on my band's site and also a music site for me to upload my own solo projects and demos to) but I don't really use that for "social networking" other than to let people find me. For me social newtorking really is a face-to-face thing, not a "virtual" thing. That's the part that's generational. The other part is that since I'm not that into "virtual" social networking I don't have a huge friends list and I'm only on one tribe that I visit occasionally and the amount of time I spend there varies widely from month to month. I joined the tribe because somebody from another group suggested that it would be fun, but that somebody was younger than I and we don't have any real connection. I think you can all understand why, then, I don't see enough reason to pay for the site. If I had to pay to be on tribe I'd just unsubscribe and let it go.
I AM very glad to see that for many here it is a valuable site that they feel would be worth paying for. Great! Pay for it and keep it going if it serves your needs. But I do have to say, get up from your keyboards and get out in the real world to make real "live" connections as much as you can because that's where the real value lies. The virtual world, as important as it is to the younger generations, is not the real world. Tribe is great for what it is, a diversion, but it just isn't real life. That's the thoughts from this old guy. |
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Sun, November 18, 2007 - 2:24 PM
$5 is reasonable. I don't even use tribe all that much, but if it's between it going away or staying, staying is preferable and $5 is one less fast food lunch per month, not a huge hardship.
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Sun, November 18, 2007 - 11:43 PM
Maybe 3 levels of tribe would be good. Like $5 /month platinum member unlimited posts, 100 pictures and no adds etc. $3/month gold member less adds and 20 pictures, 100 posts/comments per month, then $1/mo silver member adds, 10 pictures, 50 posts/comments per month. I could do $3 /month.
Maybe have different payment options. Monthly, 3 months, 6 months, 1 year, 2 years etc. give a discount to longer memberships. Livejournal has some cool features for paid members that I appreciate. |
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Mon, November 19, 2007 - 6:21 AM
Currently I find value in what I get here on Tribe. Much more so than other social networking sites that seem to be too juvenile. If ti goes away I'd miss some of the internet "connections" I've made but I would'nt lose sleep over it either.
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Mon, November 19, 2007 - 3:23 PM
I would totally pay $5, as long as Tribe got their shit together!
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Mon, November 19, 2007 - 6:23 PM
From my blog
As requested I'm posting my blog ( people.tribe.net/btd/blog/...8669ae5fca ) to add to the summary for your total stats:
Yes: 14 No: 2 Maybe: 1 User comments Theresa Sure, only if they let non-payers on. I would pay even a bit more $10 Cross Sidhe Me 2 shekky yes Flicka of course I would be willing to pay. veganskater Yeah... absolutely!! I would be willing to pay. I really DON'T want to see this site go away. Oh my God, what an awful thought. Cross Sidhe Just a reminder.... MySpace is owned by FOX. Web~ A Warrior and a Witch I absolutely would. Zulegoona Peck Nope not me, I never cared for the structure of the board Sweet Tart yes, I would. *Doll * Parts* mayhaps. big mayhaps... Le Chat Noir I'd suggest clcking adds as a start. Beyond that, I'd probaby pony up a bit, just like I do for the other things I support. chamomile why? don't the ads work? astrid bailey oh yeah sue silverstream yes, i would! Nansee Greenwitch definitely! Maev-alicious yeah.. i would.. i wont deny that paying for it irritates me a bit.. but i would still pay it. Myspace sucks, i hate it.. and i've been on here for so long as it is... Kaisenji Gypsyrose Sure why not. I don't go to the movies as much any more plus its cheaper than driving at the moment. Plus I've made some fantastic connections here! Sure I'll pay my two bits. ℛ⊚ssy ℗∑ñℊ⊍ïñ Yes. I would pay up to $10/month. tribe is my obsession :) Christian i dont think i'd pay. i have other options that would cost me nothing. |
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Tue, November 20, 2007 - 12:58 PM
Ofcourse would love to pay the 5$ but how do the 'not Ameircans do that???? we will sure would do it!
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Wed, November 21, 2007 - 12:06 AM
Yes! Absolutely yes. Five dollars a month seems more than fair, too. Please don't let tribe die!
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Wed, November 21, 2007 - 8:39 PM
Based on the above statement of a whole 5 employees and all the ads I see running on the site the answer would be no.Those 5 people are probably millionaires now
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Wed, November 28, 2007 - 8:59 PM
Good Work Mate.. drop me a line - I told all readers of my blog to comment here..
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Fri, November 30, 2007 - 4:42 PM
Where all from the sam tribe YES! on 5
Count me in! Five Bucks is a bargain!
tribe has been great for many communities and brought people together. I think there will be great support for tribe Thank you tribe |
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Sat, December 1, 2007 - 9:49 AM
$5 it is then... let's do it
I just signed up for the "premium" pay pal monthly thing... anyone else?
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