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Hostel Hotness (from discussions on Dudesnude, DickFlash & JUB)

The following post was compiled from entries on the discussion boards of several gay sites on the topic of hostels.

Posted by: Elegantism (member id) started off the discussion on hostel hotness like this:
Traveling through Europe, [ I stayed in hostels sometimes] 8 guys to a room. I always thought something hot would go down.
I remember this one time in Italy where the room was tiny and there were 6 guys in it. All ended up sleeping naked on top of the sheets, sweating and boning all night long.
Any more exciting stories?

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Follow up: beachpuppy
I was staying in a hostel in Verona, Italy, in a beautiful converted villa. Some of the showers were communal, shower heads from a common pillar. When you took showers, it meant you were standing around the same pillar, sort of face to face. Got hooked up there taking showers together...


Follow up: nakedparis
It happened to me in Budapest; the hostel was an university residence and showers were in a big room; there were little walls between showers but no curtains, so it was easy to peer the guys in the fron shower's line or drying after the shower.
In Stockholm too, I found two hostels with showers not very private; there were curtains, but the undressing room was common, so before and after the shower, we could peer each other.
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My response:

It's great to find others who are equally attracted to CMNM (clothed male / naked male) experiences at hostels. Sex is sometimes overrated and that's not just sour grapes because I

can and do get a lot of it. But I find the male bonding / friendship/ buddy camaraderie / 'skinship' aspect of relationships with other men (not just sex) can be so much more easily experienced in an environment like a hostel and I find myself craving such experiences because I feel so isolated from knowing men fully. Sure I can fuck around with guys, but it find it hard to make friends or just be buddies with guys without sex at the same time releasing our typically mutual inhibitions toward deeper male friendships.

I have had some great times and also some highly homoerotic stays at several hostels... particularly at one hostel (presently unnamed) - which I have described here on a previous thread posting (now disappeared). I've written about these hostels and sought and given advice about travelling using hostels and the male bonding / male nudity that can happen here and on my blogs.
nakedparis (above) has a great idea but I think we need another site/venue to share these since DN is so limited and the posts eventually scroll up and disappear. Also, there is the issue of privacy - when we start actually naming places and giving out address, then it may get back to the hostel owners (indirectly) that their establishments is targeted by gays/bi-guys seeking sex in their hostels. Some of the hottest places to stay are not always to gay-friendly or diversity oriented.

In the meantime, I want to hear more from elegantism about his experiences...
Hey, don't any of you guys blog? One cool idea is to create a Group Blog (using Blogger and Flickr) with multiple account holders (blog members). It's easy to set up (I can do that) and then you can either post entries by going to the Blogger (there can be many blog members or you can blog an entry by sending an email (even with an attached photo).



What do you say? Anybody want to try that... the discussion can still go on here but a 'good / useful' entry could also easily be blogged too. It doesn't mean to have to share id or have common passwords either.


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A few days later...... I added:

I created the CMNM blog and I can add you as a co-author.
Actually, you don't have to actually join blogger to do so - because even without being an (approved) blog author - it is now set up to allow posts to be sent by e-mail. That address is written in the first (trial) post at:

guysn2cmnm.blogspot.com/

The problem is how to handle explicit sexual photographs (I discuss in that post). Not having any solves that dilemma-- but there is still the matter of what constitutes 'sensual / sexy vs erotic or artistic nude vs blatant sexual behavior or obscenity as defined by the courts.

It won't be an issue-- of course -- if nobody ever posts or even reads it.
Look at it first and then tell me what you think about 'managing' the off-site blog..... Guys Into CMNM

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So now it is off and running more to follow later.....
Kelly (sunbuns99)
Sat, August 30, 2014 - 8:29 PM — permalink - 0 comments - add a comment

Innocent Exhibitionism -- cross-cultural male camarderie in Japan

See the full set of images accompanying this article at:
otoko-gay.blogspot.jp/2014/08...ral.html

While living in Japan, I found it kind of amazing that the otherwise polite and docile Japanese could be so rowdy and get so raunchy in the right circumstances. Most of these centered around group events where drinking was involved. I guess it happens everywhere with young people -- like any college parties and fraternities, etc. But still is a bit of a paradox when the seemingly shy Japanese get plastered (or maybe that's just an excuse or front) and start stripping and performing what Puritanical Americans would think of as "lewd" acts.

While Japanese are modest about nudity in general, there are times when you can catch avglimpse of guys showing pubic hair or asses -- and sometimes a cock. I used to go cycling along some of the rivers around Tokyo. The city uses the flood banks for public sports fields or you can also see similar activities in public parks too. When stopping for a break, I could often get glimpses of guys changing clothes in broad daylight - I mean - from street clothes -- stripping down to nothing or fleeting glimpse of ass and cock, and change into their team uniform or sports clothes right there in front of everyone -- especially when they were surrounded by the hunky teammates. Teams of intramural sports -- soccer, rugby, American football, baseball play on these fields usually during the weekends and holidays. Invariably, because there are no dressing rooms, the guys have to strip and change out of and back into their street clothes.This kind of CMNM scene has always been a turn-on -- it is like seeing one naked guys in a locker room full of clothed athletes, but it is out in public -- an open field.


It's kind of cool to see this kind of "innocent" exhibitionism among team members. But there is another type of flashing among Japanese men that seems to happen a lot but is not really so innocent -- maybe not really sexual or sensual -- but more like playful machismo, I guess, but it is still a turn on.

I never got invited to participate to such a degree but I have been in the room -- usually at a overnight retreat at an inn or hot springs resort where similar male stripping occurs. Without fail, some of the guys get (supposedly) too drunk to stop themselves, and end up pulling all kinds of stunts. They seem to start out as party games and end up with somebody getting undressed -- sort of voluntary (or sometimes forced) flashing for the rest of the group.

I never got any photos -- but I found these photos on the net by a group of Japanese college students . They seem pretty typical for the kind of drunken playfulness that leads to somebody getting pantsed or just flashing the group. used a Japanese language search engine and found these.

Japanese sometimes call this "skinship"

What is so cool about it? Has anybody else experienced this kind of male-male "bonding" rituals between straight guys or in mixed gender groups -- in North America, Asia, or Europe? I don't have a fetish about it , but think it is kind of cool. While these guys are sort of playing around with "sexy" homoerotic behaviors -- maybe even identifying a bit with the homoerotic nature of what they doing. it seems to me a kind of healthy way to de-sexualize nudity between men. Yes, there are some women at the party too -- although none of them usually get nude or show much if anything at all.

Share any thoughts or photos you have in the subject on this topic....



Sat, August 30, 2014 - 6:09 PM — permalink - 0 comments - add a comment

Is a joint JUB / Dudesnude / Manhunt Gathering possible?

Is a joint JustUsBoys (JUB) / Dudesnude / Manhunt Gathering or Summer Party possible?
Why? How? Where? When? This is an article for ideas for getting it started.

It seems that JUB (JustusBoys.com) members are hosting small gatherings across the US. Is anyone here actually participating in those -- attending and/or planning? I wonder if another large online virtual community like Dudesnude.com or Manhunt.net could do the same? Would there be any benefit of trying to hold a joint party/gathering?

That brings up the idea of a "joint" cross-group event - -but after all isn't that what PRIDE events or the annual street fairs are all about (such as Southern Decadence).



I am not nixing the idea of a Dudesnude party or convention or other event. I am just making some suggestions so it might actually happen. For example, we could hook-up with an existing event and thus attract more JustUsBoys or Dudesnude members to attend. I am also explaining what I think is needed to be decided in order to get one organized.

At least, we could start by having local JUB or Dudesnudes members sponsor one event at a major Gay Pride / Gay Carnival event (on their continent or region).

As I thought (and wrote) more about it the idea of a Dudesnude-JUB Gathering seems more possible and more fun -- so I have started making real suggestions (at least on Dudesnude.com). I have approached the idea to anyone here -- except through this blog entry.


The realities of actually organizing 'party' / 'convention' - 'round-up' or whatever it is called are daunting if you try to actually get many DN members to attend.
Instead, there may be some wisdom in starting on a smaller scale. It does takes a spark -- a somebody(ies) who will take the initiative to set a place/time, have a clear purpose/events/activities, make contacts and coordinate communication.

I seems to be a bit difficult to come up with a 'purpose' for a DN party -- if it a sex party/orgy then we'd better call

it that. If it's a social gathering or an organizational meeting then we'd need to get that clear. If it a DN sponsored event that is part of another major gay (men's) event or an event or series of events organized for DN (on its own) that's great but we need something to focus on: a parade float, BBQ, camp-out, beach party, ice-cream social, apres-ski party, pot-luck supper (in the nude) etc) then that would work.

If is going to have multiple purposes then that's got to be decided or at least sorted out, but it seems that we're not likely to come up with ONE general purpose because of the diversity of men, locations, ages, and interests.



Still, if somebody got one party/convention organized, once it has been started and successfully held, it would be model on how to proceed with others (or how to improve upon the idea).
Also, why not have them rotate from venue to venue and occur several times a year?-- instead of trying to have simultaneous 'parties/conventions'.

So ... I'll help organize one in JUB-DudesNude-Manhunt Gathering for Summer 2014 / Fall 2014 / Winter 2014-15 (US (several locations), or Europe would be possible.

The First Honolulu JUB-DN Gathering is easy - I think it should be on January 1st at Diamond Head Beach from 12:00 noon - until about 5pm. If enough guys are interested, then we could set up a BBQ picnic in nearby Kapiolani Park (but the Jubbing around (talk, chatting, playing game and Dudenuding could go on at the (unofficial gay/nude beach under the Light House on Diamond Head Beach. )

Stay tuned below for more info and an Evite (electronic invitation).



Palm Springs Dec 22-24 -- we could stay where we like but gather at one site (Inn Exile, CCBC, or wherever) for the main party/event(s).
or
Sometime in February 21-March 9 Big Island (nude gay beach party on the Puna shore, accommodation could be at Kalani resort - from camping to bungalows to hotel-class rooms )

Playa del Ingles / Maspalomas (Gran Canaria, Spain) Carnival 2nd to 12th March, 2015
or later March 19-28, 2015.


There are cheap flights from London, Germany, Amsterdam, Madrid. We could organize shared accommodations at both gay and vacation condo/hotels and have a huge blast on the largest gay beaches in the world during the day (all in the nude) and then split up into small dance/bar-hopping by interest groups at the many clubs in the Yumbo Center in the evenings.

Tampa or South Florida, March 16-19, 2015

I could attend one in Europe (and maybe help out with one) in London, Paris, Amsterdam, Budapest) in March -- if the Gran Canaria does not work out.

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TRYING OUT EVITE as a way to help organize (and/or just poll the members about enough interest to pursue the idea, and to actually start planning a location/time.

If you guys will indulge me, I have created an Evite to test its ability to actually find out WHO would attend a JUB/Dudesnude party or Gathering.

If you can or can't, I need a few JUB/DN members to try out the Evite link below:



Since it is may be a BROKEN URL link (yes, I understand very well why it may be), then you can piece together the parts of the URL and send me a reply at the EVITE site. Or you can send me e-mail and I will send you an Evite directly. It includes some of the features -- liking polling, brining things, that future JUB and/or DudesNude or Joint JUB-DN gathering hosts might need to know and info they'd need to be able to do collect.
So I'll someone who reads this will try it out -- even if you can't really attend that event on Jan. 1st in Honolulu.

Since I don't know the everyone's e-mails (nor would I send it to EVERYONE even if I did), but I do need a couple of people to try to see if Eventbrite works.

www.eventbrite.com/o/club-c...813880240


One major stumbling block to actually organizing an DudesNude / JustUsBoys / Manhunt event or party is the fact this is not a email LIST or group (Yahoo or MSN, etc). So there is no way to send everyone a message (apart from site host / web admin) - and they should NOT have to organize events AND run / host this site too.

So here's the link and hope you can make it (or at least try to send a RSVP or decline the invitation).
It will give me (and maybe someone in a different location) a resource for helping to organize a JUB/ DN event (if it works).

Thanx,
Sunbuns99 (Kelly)

Or you could just write me e-mail here and I'll send you an electronic (email) invitation.

Tue, August 26, 2014 - 11:45 PM — permalink - 0 comments - add a comment

Hospital Tintillation - Trying to flash the doctor

I was staying in hospital for a condition that has also occurred before. I ended up on the same ward of the same hospital where I stayed before. Two of the attending doctor's are the same, but one is new .. young, tall, and he has a deep voice and sexy hands. It gives me a thrill when he stops by to examine me on his am/pm rounds. There really is nothing to suspect he'd be interested in one of his patients sexually. But that hasn't stopped me from fantasizing and also trying to flash him from my hospital bed. There is something horny about being physically examined daily by men in white coats! LOL especially when the nature of the illness is rather mild -- by comparison with other patients who seem to suffer a lot more. The fact that I spend time reading porn stories ( some about this very thing - medical exams) while lying hours on a hospital bed certainly enhances the mood.

Dr. M usually makes a point to stop by twice a day...so I've been greeting him with my robe open slightly at the crotch when he has stopped the last few days so that now I'm thinking he's got the idea I like him seeing me nude. Yesterday he made an unscheduled stop in the p.m. When he asked about my throat, I had just a peek of my crotch showing, but then he wanted to see my ankle so I had to stretch out my leg and I am pretty sure he got a clear view of my semi erect cock when my robe

opened up more. I couldn't really look down and confirm or I'd been obliged to cover my 'accidental' exposure. He stayed a minute more, making small talk, but he was not cruising me -- at least not blatantly -- maybe he's not at all interested, but oddly enough he came back alone this a.m. after a group of doctors he was with stopped by earlier. I made a point of extending my leg to let him feel my ankle thus exposing my groin with my partly open robe. I couldn't gauge hid reaction, however. There is another young doctor who is friendly too, but it's not clear whether my showing some glimpses of penis is having any effect on him either.

Yesterday, after that episode, I got so horny that I decided to go outside while the sun was shining and to try to get partly naked. Behind the hospital but still on its property is a small park area with benches. Trees, and an open area that adjoins the parking lot. That's where I headed mid afternoon wearing my robe and nothing else - actually a Japanese yukata (light cotton kimono-like garment)- while that in itself is not unusual, most of the ones people might sleep in are normally white with a traditional printed pattern. Mine is for casual day wear so it is a tan and beige modern design.
The parking lot is near the back so there are not as many visitors, but instead there are pharmaceutical company salesman who park their cars there and then wait between appointments. A few of them were parked (backed in) and sitting in the driver's seat. They could probably get a look in the rear view mirrors of what I was doing. I opened the front of my robe and then started pulling on my cock until it was fully hard -- a.though I can't be sure anyone's looking, they certainly have the opportunity and that thought kept my juices flowing all evening and half the night.

Mine is a male patients room shared with three other beds - separated by

curtains. Last night between 12-2am, I couldn't stifle the urge to beat off - but I made sure to make squishy jacking noises on my cock as I edged up and back from a final squirt when the 20-something guy in the corner bed seemed to be likely to be awake and listening ( turned over or got something to drink).

I know it 's not much, but I am confined to my hospital for more than a week and witn security cams everywhere I'm not about to flash strangers on the elevator. What I am doing now is some form of CMNM simulation.

Exactly because he is a serious medical professional, there is nothing to worry about. I talked to him a lot longer today - when he came in to the room, I was lying on my back and my half hard-on was visible through the thin material of the white pj's I'm wearing. As we talked my erection went down although there was some leakage of precum he might have noticed. I even joked with him about finding a bride perhaps among his patients. Our conversation went on for a while -- at least he's not scared of being with / talking to a 'flaming pervert' as some people (on this site) seem to believe.

The next door...

It was a nice sunny afternoon, so getting hornier as I feel better, I went out to the hospital grounds again to get naked in the sun. There cars parking nearby and some strollers, but I sat on the far bench and took off my pajama top. A bit later I pulled down my shorts and manage to get these cellphone pix. Had fun beating off in the April sunshine although most viewers couldn't see much since they were behind me, but a shirtless guy with a hand busy in his lap.

Last day in the hospital ...

Monday was the last of my week-long hospital stay. Young Dr.M, who I described in an earlier posting (below), had already visited me once that morning ,so I thought any chances of him seeing nude were unlikely. But - what do you know! - he came back to say he needed some photos to document how I had healed. What luck!

I was wearing my gown with nothing underneath. Of course,I knew this was my flashing opportunity come true!

So I disrobed while on the bed right in front of him. He was very professional, but my cock started swelling up. It took him a few minutes to get the photos - mostly close-ups. By this time, my cock was nearly erect and starting to leak. I was delighted he didn't just hurry away, but stayed a couple more minutes and chatted - all the.while letting me show him my naked body, cock and balls. I think he somehow knew that this was a more intimate kind of bedside manner that this patient really needed and appreciated!

This is how I looked from the end of the hospital bed (taken with a cellphone just after the doctor left).
Sun, August 10, 2014 - 12:36 AM — permalink - 0 comments - add a comment

Got any good ideas for flashing or CMNM scenes




I've brought this up a while ago. But someone may have recent info, recommendations, or actual experiences to share.
I'm staying in NYC in August - just a few nights - passing thru. I'm looking to stay in a hostel or other accommodations - but prefer one where there would be opportunities for male-to-male flashing or at least CMNM.

Can anybody suggest one that is decent and might work for that?

I've stayed the Gershwin Hotel which has dorm-style rooms. The YMCA (Vanderbilt and West Side) are pretty good for that. Can anybody tell me how Jamaica YMCA would be?

I'm not into high risk flashing (at least not yet) with complete strangers in very public settings.

I usually get my jollies by trying to make guys feel comfortable (or loosen up) to showing their own bodies / cocks or to be erotically stimulated enough to pop a boner or even masturbate.

However, I like to get to know my flashing 'target' - it's really hot when a guy I've been talking to -- intellectual discussion or talking about travel or pop culture stuff suddenly gets to take a good hard look at me naked or even partly or fully aroused. (pretending to sleep but have a hard-on exposed). Then later talking to him again, I imagine what he's thinking about having seen my nude body or stiff cock while we're talking about something else. That sense of a shared secret is very exciting - and it works the opposite way too - if I've seen him nude and/or aroused.

Summer vacation's coming in a few weeks.. so I've got several hostel stays, campground stays, and of course nude beach excursions planned.

One of the photos (see the full post at link above) was taken this morning on a walk (without the dog this time) in the park-like cemetery just a few minutes away on foot.

For nearly two years (very infrequently off and on), I've tried to get a younger man (about 23-27) who rides to work on his bicycle through the cemetery (above) to notice my peekaboo flashing (see thru, hole-riddled and mesh clothes). He's not ever really taken the bait and generally turns his head or avert his eyes - if we're too close - so that he can't be 'accused' of looking. I am pretty positive he knows what I'm up to ... a few times a month I make a sudden appearance on his route - sometimes with my zipper down or sometimes with a pair of mesh shorts with my shirt tucked in just for him to see my pale cock wiggle from side-to-side as walk by him.

If he were so disgusted or fearful (of being stalked), he could easily find another path to his work (I think he's working at a small commercial airport not too far away) because I meet him usually (once a week or so) around 7:00am and he returns about home the same route in mid-afternoon. Wednesday are his day off so he works on Saturdays as well.

Things have gotten more daring on my part this month. A couple of times recently I've gotten more bold.. like this morning. From the road, he would see me something like this (photo attached). I realize it's very tame by comparison (to other's extreme flashing - but HEY!.. we are NOT all made/built the same, right?)

I'm standing in a pathway between grave plots about 7 meters from the main road that runs through the cemetery. It's a straight wide (private) road with no thru vehicle traffic - so I only have to be careful about pedestrians and bicylists going east/west. Before taking up my position just off the road, I scout out down the road to see if he's approaching and then take up my position (like the photo). I'm turned a bit to the left but I can him clearly when I look to my right. I've done this before but never pulled my pants all the way down until recently. Earlier I was taking a piss (or pretending too).

So twice recently.. when I knew nobody else was approaching either direction .. I've pulled down my pants and starting jerking my cock (not hard in this 'staged' recreation of the scene.
There should be no doubt that he can see me in this peripheral vision but he's TOO damned chicken or just not going to give me the pleasure knowing he's looking. He's smart - not a smart-aleck and he's not looking for a confrontation but he's not looking to see 'dick' if he can help it either.

I know it's pretty stupid (fruitless is a better word LOL) -maybe useless to try to keep flashing this guy (if you can call it that). But the challenge just seems to be increasing my feelings of urgency. This time after he went by without so much as a smile or frown/scowl or side glance... I had to go deeper off the main road and beat off til I came.
Is this going to lead to me trying to go to greater lengths to get the guy to look?

I think the attraction is that I sort of 'feel' like I know him -- ridiculous idea (I know) but at least we recognize each other.
Sometimes he almost can't help it if I suddenly meet him coming around a corner but it's risky to be 'showing' more than just wearing see-thru mesh - because mothers with school children, old ladies and men heading to their office job are equally likely to suddenly appear around the same corners.

I know he does look my way at times .. but it's only when I'm 20-50 meters away. There is a large plaza (paved area) along the main road, where we sometimes cross paths at a much great distance. It is at times like that when I have my zipper down and my cock partly exposed. I notice then that he 'seems' to take a brief look .. but if I'm too close.. he averts his eyes or even turns his head.

What do you think? It's not much of a flashing experience - but it's the most 'real' flashing I've ever done (not counting nude beaches and CMNM with male strangers in hostels/campsites). He's got to know that I'm 'beating off' for him, but he's closed to the idea.

Any suggestions?

It's at a public cemetery in an Asia country - where I happen to be working now (part of the year). That fact makes the flashing (or peekaboo exposure) even more risky - I'm a white American male and almost all of the people who pass through the cemetery -- including the guy on the bicycle I've been targeting - are Asians.
I'd be very easy to identify in a police line-up (LOL) if he made a complaint to the police.

I don't know what it is - -but I'm not the first person on dickFlash - who has had the urge to flash while living in a place as person of an extreme racial minority (less than 2/10ths of a percent) are not Asian.

Maybe somebody can explain this phenomenon?

Sat, August 9, 2014 - 11:13 PM — permalink - 0 comments - add a comment

Nudism: Father and sons / parent-child

It may be that those who don't have children (of either sex) might possibly 'project' what might be their own doubts (or fears or sexual inclinations) when they consider how gay or bisexual fathers could be perfectly comfortable being naked with their children (especially sons), or even want to make sure that they DO get the opportunity to learn / experience being comfortable naked with their dads and other men.

Read this article with full photos at:
fatherpride.blogspot.com/2014/...d.html

I don't ever recall having the slightest urge to 'know' my own sons biblically (i.e. in a less than wholesome way) and never gave the first thought to being sexually attracted to them. I'd be less than honest to say that this was not always true about some of their high school friends and soccer teammates. However, I never ever acted on these thoughts - although I wouldn't morally condemn some man who did - that's not what the issue or the original question on this thread is about.

I'm not rejecting the possibility that some fathers could have more than an affectionate or fatherly interest in their sons, but I'd bet that most do not.

In my own case, there was no willful desire, ulterior motive or sinister plan to let the boys see me (and my wife) naked. It was just a natural family thing. We did not raise them in Judeo-Christian religion-influenced America so that probably had a lot to do with reasons why it just seemed natural. We bathed together, went to public baths and hot springs resorts, and a few sometime visited nude beaches (or clothing-optional spots, in other countries - such as Greece and Munich's Englischergarten). Conversations sometimes included references to what they saw or were experiencing and there were the inevitable questions. But it was appropriate and in context - so it was a good way and good time to answer their questions: about sex or sexual attraction or feelings and behavior.

I think my sons today have a healthy respect for the human body and an amazing tolerance for diversity - including my own bisexuality, which evidently was even clear to them long before we actually told them.

I can't say that it's all attributable to our being nude together as a family but I think it was a contributing factor or at least just one in a long series of ways of thinking and ways of treating people and being nude that helped them to be open and honest about sexual issues, and not be morally uptight or self-righteous about gender, nudity and human sexual behavior.
They are both heterosexual and over 21-year-old male adults. I am talking about our being nude when they were infants, young boys and into the teenage years. We don't have as much occasion to get naked together these days.

Well... they do mean something.... what more can I say. I'll try.
I was TRYING to support you in the idea that being nude with your sons (or any kids) can be (even should be) something that's very natural and not a cause for alarm. (like some of the hyper-moralistic gay men are suggesting).

BUT .. it does depend on the situation (where you take them and what you 'show' them both physically and your own mental messages to the boys. And it also depends a lot on the boys' (children) own self-understanding and self-acceptance.
Hey, I'm not perfect. The 'idea' of a father and son being sexually involved is a secret fantasy.
I enjoy reading Handjobs www.hjmag.com/handjobs/
But it IS just fantasy material - I find I am not attracted at all to my own offspring. However, the thought has crossed my mind often enough about other fathers and their sons.

I think that all boys have at least one time or another (or maybe more than that) had to come to grips with the thought of their father as a sexual being or even an object of some kind of sexual emotions or physical intimacy. But they usually grow out (of it) and grow up (more interested in other things or girls (or guys) their own age before any attraction toward their dad is acted upon. Close to 90% of boys have experience with sexual 'play' with other boys - it's about being a male of the human species.

Fathers are likely to have experienced these same fleeting feelings (and then usually they passed ) and the realization about their sons growing up sexually. I noticed that the discussion has since about stopped. There was one point that had many people curious. You avoided answering the question about your son's ages. In today's climate of "anti-child predator" and all the media hype about child sexual abuse, and Internet child/teen sex / chat rooms etc, I realize you probably don't want to admit much of anything, but you could have said just that it's private or that it's not important to the gist of the discussion. By the way, I would not fault you if you did admit you enjoy being admired by your sons (I don't care what age they are).

Hope you can get what I meant.
Kelly
Sat, August 9, 2014 - 6:28 PM — permalink - 0 comments - add a comment

Nudism: Father and sons / parent-child

It may be that those who don't have children (of either sex) might possibly 'project' what might be their own doubts (or fears or sexual inclinations) when they consider how gay or bisexual fathers could be perfectly comfortable being naked with their children (especially sons), or even want to make sure that they DO get the opportunity to learn / experience being comfortable naked with their dads and other men.

Read this article with full photos at:
fatherpride.blogspot.com/2014/...d.html

I don't ever recall having the slightest urge to 'know' my own sons biblically (i.e. in a less than wholesome way) and never gave the first thought to being sexually attracted to them. I'd be less than honest to say that this was not always true about some of their high school friends and soccer teammates. However, I never ever acted on these thoughts - although I wouldn't morally condemn some man who did - that's not what the issue or the original question on this thread is about.

I'm not rejecting the possibility that some fathers could have more than an affectionate or fatherly interest in their sons, but I'd bet that most do not.

In my own case, there was no willful desire, ulterior motive or sinister plan to let the boys see me (and my wife) naked. It was just a natural family thing. We did not raise them in Judeo-Christian religion-influenced America so that probably had a lot to do with reasons why it just seemed natural. We bathed together, went to public baths and hot springs resorts, and a few sometime visited nude beaches (or clothing-optional spots, in other countries - such as Greece and Munich's Englischergarten). Conversations sometimes included references to what they saw or were experiencing and there were the inevitable questions. But it was appropriate and in context - so it was a good way and good time to answer their questions: about sex or sexual attraction or feelings and behavior.

I think my sons today have a healthy respect for the human body and an amazing tolerance for diversity - including my own bisexuality, which evidently was even clear to them long before we actually told them.

I can't say that it's all attributable to our being nude together as a family but I think it was a contributing factor or at least just one in a long series of ways of thinking and ways of treating people and being nude that helped them to be open and honest about sexual issues, and not be morally uptight or self-righteous about gender, nudity and human sexual behavior.
They are both heterosexual and over 21-year-old male adults. I am talking about our being nude when they were infants, young boys and into the teenage years. We don't have as much occasion to get naked together these days.

Well... they do mean something.... what more can I say. I'll try.
I was TRYING to support you in the idea that being nude with your sons (or any kids) can be (even should be) something that's very natural and not a cause for alarm. (like some of the hyper-moralistic gay men are suggesting).

BUT .. it does depend on the situation (where you take them and what you 'show' them both physically and your own mental messages to the boys. And it also depends a lot on the boys' (children) own self-understanding and self-acceptance.
Hey, I'm not perfect. The 'idea' of a father and son being sexually involved is a secret fantasy.
I enjoy reading Handjobs www.hjmag.com/handjobs/
But it IS just fantasy material - I find I am not attracted at all to my own offspring. However, the thought has crossed my mind often enough about other fathers and their sons.

I think that all boys have at least one time or another (or maybe more than that) had to come to grips with the thought of their father as a sexual being or even an object of some kind of sexual emotions or physical intimacy. But they usually grow out (of it) and grow up (more interested in other things or girls (or guys) their own age before any attraction toward their dad is acted upon. Close to 90% of boys have experience with sexual 'play' with other boys - it's about being a male of the human species.

Fathers are likely to have experienced these same fleeting feelings (and then usually they passed ) and the realization about their sons growing up sexually. I noticed that the discussion has since about stopped. There was one point that had many people curious. You avoided answering the question about your son's ages. In today's climate of "anti-child predator" and all the media hype about child sexual abuse, and Internet child/teen sex / chat rooms etc, I realize you probably don't want to admit much of anything, but you could have said just that it's private or that it's not important to the gist of the discussion. By the way, I would not fault you if you did admit you enjoy being admired by your sons (I don't care what age they are).

Hope you can get what I meant.
Kelly
Sat, August 9, 2014 - 6:26 PM — permalink - 0 comments - add a comment

Where can you post naked photos of yourself?

One thing you may not know is that: IT ONLY MATTERS WHERE YOUR NUDE PICS ARE HOSTED. Japan does not block outside sites (at least most ISP companies in Japan do not). Your blog is hosted on Blogger so the photos were not kept in Japan but were stored on Google's own web servers in the U.S.

It is not a crime to post naked photos of yourself that do violate international legal standards when the photos are not physically stored on Japanese host web servers.

BLOG Privacy versus SITE Privacy

Your 'Out There' blog was not private at all; however, it was also not really possible to find it without seeing the URL in some profile of yours.
Blogger does not password protect blogs but you can make them for 'members only'. However, you can make it completely private and only allow specific people to view it by sending them an invitation by email.

There may be other blog sites such as LiveJournal, Wordpress and Typepad (or others) where you can set up a password protection for members only. There are plenty of gay sites where a viewer would first have to become a member (usually free) before he can actually see your profile or any pics on it. I have shown some examples of such sites below: such as Dudesnude or Manjam or GayWatch or Gay.com EMAIL: One thing that I do is to have completely SEPARATE email accounts for my married, straight father / professor self, and another completely set of email accounts for my 'gay' self.

I think you're mixing up the two of them - which is perfectly for today's young people. We, who are older and part of an established institution, would not be so happy to have our 'gay' identities shown to everyone.

So I suggest you to make a 'gay/bisexual-only' email account and to use it solely when sending email and logging on to gay sites.

Also, there is a benefit of using email which is already part of a securely encrypted mail server: NOTE* the URL for a site: https://
Google email uses such a system. The 'extra' s after the http indicates that a site is securely encrypted.

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My Blogger blogs (Google):

I can also make you a contributor (member) of one of my blogs so that you can upload photos or write message/texts. It will probably be best if you used a different email address that the one you are using for your work, family, and 'straight' friends.

Tell me what email address is. It's probably not good to use the one we are communicating with now but it displays your full name.

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Sites where you can post yourself nude:

0) Of course, you can post naked photos of yourself on JustUsBoys.com, but (as far as I can see) 'free' members cannot limit who can actually view them. Click the link to see my profile on JUB:
www.justusboys.com/forum/me...sunbuns99

In fact, most members (free or paid) may not know that they can have a blog, a profile, and a gallery of up to about 200 photos (at least - it may be larger now), belong to or create groups. Click the JUB link above to see my profile, blog and gallery.

1) There are quite a few places where you can upload nude photos.

Probably the best place is Flickr www.flickr.com
It is easy to use and you can set the privacy for your photos - at four different levels for EACH photo: public (anyone can see), friends only, family one, friends and family, and completely private.

You have to create a Yahoo account. Formerly, you could only upload 200 photos, but I believe that restriction has now been lifted. You designate in Flickr WHO can view each (or a batch) of photos. So you can naked photos of yourself and allow only friends or family (meaning a close set of acquaintances). That's a lot of naked pics.

I can send you an invitation to see some of my naked photos on Flickr: It will come from one of my several Yahoo accounts: hardtwoholed

Here is my Flickr account:
www.flickr.com/people/hardtwoholed/

YOU CANNOT see much of anything until you sign up for Flickr (and Yahoo), and also change your SETTINGS so that you can look at sexual content.
Here is another Flickr account:
www.flickr.com/people/44864907@N06/

(There are no naked ones of me in there that are currently visible UNLESS you are my friend in Flickr. ) So the account is considered 'safe' by Flickr (owned by Yahoo). If your post a nude photo of yourself publicly, then Flickr will warn you and also will make your account labeled as 'unsafe.' Unsafe accounts cannot be viewed by just anyone - so that also helps protect your identity.

Actually, I have at least 5 Flickr accounts since I can only save 200 photos (at least it was that was for a long, long time). I sometimes need more for other types of photos.


2) Goggle also has a similar site: Picasa (Google Photos for saving and sharing photos).
The photos you uploaded into your 'Out here' blog were uploaded also into a folder in the same Blogger account - but since you may have deleted it completely they might not be there anymore.
You can make each folder public or private. You can send invitations to people (like me) who will be able to view you private pics (but no one else can).

3). One site I enjoy is Tribe.net (You must enjoy it too since you're reading this blog on my Tribe.net profile).

It's not for just gay people - but there are all kinds of people from countries all over - but there are also a lot of men who are gay. In Tribe, you can create your own profile and add photos, a blog, and other stuff (pretty simple); you can also join (or create) your own tribe group - where members can share photos and have discussions privately. Only people you admit as 'friends' will be able to see your private photos (or the photos in a private group). There are many tribes that are related to sexual interests but NOT only those kind. Here is one tribe that started on publicly openTribe.net:
tribes.tribe.net/homoerantics/

I can also send you an invitation to join Tribe.net (after I know what email address of yours I should use to invite you.) Several Tribe are private and only join them and see their content by invitation from a current member.

You can see my Tribe.net profile here (but you can cannot see my own 'private' naked photos - until I make you my 'friend' on Tribe.

people.tribe.net/sunbuns

4) Inside some sites, you can upload some private photos and then only your 'friends' can view them.

There are both gay and non-sexual sites .. such as

A. Webjam.com - I was once an active user / member of Webjam. NOTE: My account and sites on Webjam.com have now been deleted.

C. Facebook changed it's privacy policy about nude photos, etc, a few years ago.
Now it's possible to upload photos that can only be seen by the specific people you allow. However, at this point, I do not trust Facebook to keep its word about this policy.

So far, I have not uploaded any naked photos of myself in Facebook.
But I really enjoy using it to stay in touch.

www.facebook.com/sunbuns

(of course, I also have another Facebook account for my 'real self' - the married college professor father)

Here is a Facebook page for Guys Into CMNM (clothed male naked male):
www.facebook.com/guysn2cmnm
You can only see if you are currently logged in to Facebook.


D. There are a few other gay sites and also quite a few iPhone applications where you can create a profile and have public and private pictures.

www.dudesnude.com

www.dudesnude.com/members/9156/

You can see all my PUBLIC photos but not the ones I have made 'private.' There is a password that is needed in order to view

those. There is a limit (about 25 I think) to the total number of photos you can upload on your DN (dudesnude) profile.You can choose whether or not to allow this profile to be published or not, and which photos will be private or public. There are ten of thousands of members of Dudesnude.com from all over the world. So it's popular with the gay population.

Manjam is another similar site:

www.manjam.com/sunbuns

(You can't see all the photos until you log in).

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iPhone Apps
Here are a few iPhone Apps where you can post a profile and include (optional) nude photos of yourself:

Adam4Adam
Manhunt
Grindr
Mister
Scruff
Jack'd
Recon
Gaydar
Maleforce
Hornet
9monsters

Dudesnude (It is not an iPhone app but you can view the site on your iPhone browser, the apps Adam4Adam and Manhunt above are also websites which can also be accessed via the iPhone browser.)


OK.. that was MUCH more information that you probably needed or wanted to know.

Let me know your other (or bisexual/gay) 'email' address, then I can send you some invitations to view my hidden sites or photos.

Kelly
Fri, August 8, 2014 - 11:18 PM — permalink - 0 comments - add a comment

Suburban nudism - exposed at public recreation area



Summer's dwindling away slowly here. But the sunny days are no longer so humid; school's getting started so that brings out teams and athletic groups. Fortunately, we've had few typhoons (Pacific hurricanes) so far this season.

Instead of spending all summer abroad (US/Europe), I returned to Japan and have had a few weeks off. Lucky for me, it means trips locally (by bike), into the big city (for the gay baths) or further away. Just minutes by bicycle from my house is a (usually) shallow river that has large flat flood-zone embankments which are used for recreation areas. Eventually, I came to discover there is a unknown (but fairly trafficked gay cruising area on one of those flood-zone embankments where I now go nude sunbathing and cruising a several times a month in the warm seasons.

I've been spending lots of time there - sunning myself (almost naked or sometimes completely). I was pleasantly surprised recently to be flashed (accidental exposure - really) by some college age frisbee soccer dudes. (see pics below)
The best 'exposing' was done on a Sunday afternoon. But unfortunately, I didn't have my camera. I went back two days later and the same group was practicing. This time I got some photos; however, the two hottest guys who naked 'incidents' I wrote about in the blog entry (below) weren't as exhibitionistic as before.

I wrote about it in one of my blogs:
sunbuns.blogspot.jp/2014/08/...blic.html

Still ... I think you can get a flavor of what I was seeing before - since their undressing after practice lasted over a 15-20 minute period.

They are not intentionally flashing anybody - except maybe each other - although I can't see why they wouldn't know that anybody (like the white American guy sitting around the field) could be watching or even people passing on the walkway above them. However, I found it so ironic that they could so easily get naked -- since Japanese are so shy in some aspects of their individual personalities and social culture. Paradoxically, people in groups can get away with almost anything if the 'group's' mores/norms allow it.

It was both intriguing and downright sexy to watch. Enough so that afterwards, I had to get naked and exposed - on my own. It was easy and ohh so fun .. being inspired to nakedness!

Kelly

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Japanese frisbee soccer team members get out of uniforms on the field. The guy on far right (holding his balls) is the one who was taunted and kept naked by his teammates (two days before).
They are careful about covering the front so it's mainly their butts that are exposed. Some groups seem more shy (and use towels). In this team, they all showed ass.

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The spirit is willing but the flash is week day and weekend!

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Jerking off in a local river after being inspired by seeing soccer boy butts

As I said, I was inspired to try out some innocent naked exposure on my own -- hardly innocent - but not malicious either. Who knows maybe there was someone with a camera, taking photos of my naked body - just as I had done with the frisbee team above.

About 4:30pm when the fisherman leave the river (most have on waders and are out flying fishing), I move from near the side of the frisbee soccer field on down to the river's edge. There is a grassy / bushy area between the field area and the river banks, which is lower, flat but wide, and partially hidden - except from people who are either on the river's edge or who are standing on the other side of the river. It's covered in smooth rounded rocks and pebbles.

I strip and wear my wrap-around (pareo) to get into the water. Then remove it and swim in the very shallow cool and clean (mostly clean) water. It's not the muddy crap you see in China or some other Asian nations. The water in Japan is mostly clean so much so that you're tempted to drink it - and probably could without risk. The people in Japan are proud of their water and a lot of public works money is spent to ensure its quality and efficiency.

I start jerking my cock and it gets hard, knowing that someone might be able to see me -- either from the opposite banks, or the apartment building balconies just beyond that. Other 'viewers' might suddenly come down the embankment from behind me and interrupt my masturbating, but that only serves to get me more excited. Two teenage boys are fishing at my left down the river - they could have looked up - to see a naked male figure on the horizon. I keep looking to see if they noticed - but had no indication that they ever did.

If anybody gazes in my direction for a little while, they would see the regular pumping movements of my arm and a hand that's moving back and forth at my crotch. I'm not going to stand up - it's not even 5 pm and the sun is still one hour before setting - bathing me in soft yellowish light. Before long, my cum mingles with the mossy rocks and flows rapidly away downstream.

Before that, I had taken some pics of me standing or kneeling in the water. There were pics too of people around me.

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The spirit is willing but the flash is week day and weekend!
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Kelly (sunbuns / sunbuns99)
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